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so obviously the second commandment refers to images that are worshipped, otherwise God would have taken Moses to the woodshed.
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
so obviously the second commandment refers to images that are worshipped, otherwise God would have taken Moses to the woodshed.
So is a depiction of God allowed under the second commandment, as long as its not consciously worshiped?
You can't make an image of God, you don't know what he looks like, You can't even see the Father he's a Spirit and the Son you don't know what he looks like either he hasn't been seen in a long time so i don't think it's even possible to make an image of God.
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
You can't make an image of God, you don't know what he looks like, You can't even see the Father he's a Spirit and the Son you don't know what he looks like either he hasn't been seen in a long time so i don't think it's even possible to make an image of God.
I agree.
But I was referring to the depiction of God in the Sistine Chapel.... a christian building.
Does that violate the 2nd commandment in any way?
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by Bisman
I have never seen anyone calling themselves a christian worship a crucifix, not any protestant ones at least, we'd be having words with their preacher if he allowed any of that.
Originally posted by Bisman
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by Bisman
I have never seen anyone calling themselves a christian worship a crucifix, not any protestant ones at least, we'd be having words with their preacher if he allowed any of that.
praying is worshiping...
and like EVERY sect does this.its not something taught and encouraged by the church(s), but we see it going on all the time.
dont many latin catholics traditionally hang them above doorways, some families have traditions of tapping it when they leave the room.
and catholic nuns kissing small pocket crucifix's like they are candy.
those are all idols, and this is all worship. the commandment dosnt say anything about idols being ok if they represent the jewish/chrsitian god. it says idols.
Originally posted by adjensen
As you would expect me to say, from the previous thread on this same subject, yes, making a picture of God does not violate the Second Commandment, because there is no prohibition on it there -- it is either "no images of any kind" or it's "images are okay, so long as they're not worshipped."
Your conclusion that the Israelites produced two pieces of artwork in their multi-thousand year history is not a valid one.
Originally posted by Bisman
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by Bisman
I have never seen anyone calling themselves a christian worship a crucifix, not any protestant ones at least, we'd be having words with their preacher if he allowed any of that.
praying is worshiping...
and like EVERY sect does this.its not something taught and encouraged by the church(s), but we see it going on all the time.
dont many latin catholics traditionally hang them above doorways, some families have traditions of tapping it when they leave the room.
and catholic nuns kissing small pocket crucifix's like they are candy.
those are all idols, and this is all worship. the commandment dosnt say anything about idols being ok if they represent the jewish/chrsitian god. it says idols.edit on 17-10-2012 by Bisman because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
You can't make an image of God, you don't know what he looks like, You can't even see the Father he's a Spirit and the Son you don't know what he looks like either he hasn't been seen in a long time so i don't think it's even possible to make an image of God.
I agree.
But I was referring to the depiction of God in the Sistine Chapel.... a christian building.
Does that violate the 2nd commandment in any way?
Good for you. They're supposed to be offensive. The Crucifixion was a tremendously offensive act. It shows us, among other things, the depths of Christ's love for us and the suffering he had to undergo because of sin.
especially the ones depicting Jesus still hanging on the cross, i find those offensive.
If it's being worshipped or glorified in any manner yeah it does violate the second commandment,
Your conclusion that the Israelites produced two pieces of artwork in their multi-thousand year history is not a valid one.