Pravda: Mysterious deaths of UFO researchers

An article from Russia today, which I found interesting. I see this no where in Western media, but Timothy Goode has complied research documenting the strange and bizarre deaths of UFO researchers, especially in the United States.

english.pravda.ru...

Goode uses many examples from the 1970s and 1980s to make his case.

Famous American astronomer Morris K. Jessup, whose books about intelligent life beyond Earth have become bestsellers, committed suicide. He ended his life by opening an exhaust pipe in his car, locking his door and turning on the ignition. Professor James Edward McDonald, who for many years served as head of the Institute of Atmospheric Physics of the Earth and studied unidentified aerospace objects, put a bullet in his head.

Edward Ruppelt, who led a project for the study of unidentified objects in the skies over the United States, died of a cardiovascular crisis at the age of 37. On November 5, 2001, William Milton Cooper, a famous UFO researcher who has repeatedly accused the U.S. government of hiding the truth about UFOs, was killed by police in his home. Cooper, who clearly suffered from delusion, lived in Yeager (Arizona). He bought weapons in bulk to create units to fight a secret government led by aliens.

BE CAUTIOUS PEOPLE.

Didn't a lot of them dudes work for Marconi? Sure I've seen them names and details on here before. Twas a big thread not so long ago, if I recall right.

Originally posted by lazernation
Didn't a lot of them dudes work for Marconi? Sure I've seen them names and details on here before. Twas a big thread not so long ago, if I recall right.

Fairly new on here and I hadn't seen a thread on the Pravda story. If this is a dup, I am sure the mods will disable. Sorry if that is the case. The one I did see on a search was from 2006. So, i thought the story deserved a refresh, in light of the article in Pravda, and the fact the Goode just announced this at a conference.

reply to post by Jchristopher5


No dramas, brother.. This site has a bit of info on a few of the deadeds Marconi wossit

Almost all of the people you have mentioned are not UFO researchers. They are scientists , programers and engineers. A couple of the UFO researchers you mentioned did commit suicide but the deaths dont seem very mysterious.

To me it just seems like Timothy Goode has another book to sell. IMO he is not one of the most credible ufo researchers, i remember hearing him on an ATS interview where he was trying to say Adamski was not a hoaxer.

Originally posted by PhoenixOD
Almost all of the people you have mentioned are not UFO researchers. They are scientists , programers and engineers.

A couple of the researchers you mentioned did commit suicide but the deaths dont seem very mysterious.

edit on 12-10-2012 by PhoenixOD because: (no reason given)

Good point, my oversight was unintentional. Lets say those working around the UFO and alien phenomenon.

reply to post by PhoenixOD


True, not Yoofo researchers, but interesting stories nonetheless. Marconi syndrome and all that.

reply to post by lazernation


I remember reading quite a lot about the deaths that happened in 1987-89 because they happened right where i live. It was clear that people where being killed and it was made to look like suicides but the general opinion was it had something to do with the defense industry / spooks and spys. The cases are very interesting but i think Timothy Goode is stretching the truth yet again saying they had anything to do with UFO's.

But hey..authors gottta sell books.

reply to post by PhoenixOD


Yep. Tim does what he does.. I like the bloke though.

I've always been interested in Marconi schizzle too being from Essex and all that. Had an interview with them as a 17 year old and was astonished by all the security They've always had their fingers in the MOD pie. Who knows what really occurred back then.

It's odd that the scientists decided to end their own lives. Either the pressure of what they were doing got to them or they were in a position of knowing too much and their deaths were made to look like suicide.

Sure he may have a book to sell, but who doesn't nowadays?

Originally posted by lazernation
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Yep. Tim does what he does.. I like the bloke though.

I've always been interested in Marconi schizzle too being from Essex and all that. Had an interview with them as a 17 year old and was astonished by all the security

They've always had their fingers in the MOD pie. Who knows what really occurred back then.

One of the super strange aspects of the deaths that happened in the Bristol area was that they were never really investigated as anything other than suicides. Some of the people who died did so in such a way that it was impossible for them to have done it by themselves. For example one guy was tied up in electrical wire , had one end in his mouth while the other end was plugged into the wall. Several of the 'suicides' happened on the same days. It was clear a team was running around taking people out and making a statement to those in the know at the same time.

I was a computer programmer back then and it certainly made me think twice me for applying for work with any of the defense contractors or companies like BA.

With Tomothy Goode trying to link all this to UFO's it makes it harder to know what really happened. Theres no doubt in my mind it was just a spy / spooks matter.

reply to post by PhoenixOD


Yep. Agree with you it seems obvious that something stinky was going on, but why? What were these young, talented peeps bumped off for. Star wars systems have been mentioned. One of the fellas was working on an upgrade to our torpedoes. What were they into and onto? It's a bloody mystery for sure.

Next step:

Government analyses every webpage you have seen and opened

Once you reach the critical level of gathered/read too much information

Your suicide is being planned....

Welkom to the information age.

Originally posted by Jchristopher5
There is also the famous "Sheldon list." The famous American writer Sidney Sheldon, working on his novel "The End of the World", drew attention to a series of mysterious deaths among British specialists developing space weapons.

In October of 1986, Professor Arshad Sharif killed himself by tying one end of the rope to a tree, making a loop at the other end, putting his head through it and driving the car away. A few days later another London professor, Vimal Dazibay, jumped head first from the Bristol Bridge. Both of them worked on the development of electronic weapons for the English government program, similar to the American "Star Wars."

In January of 1987, another scientist, Avtar Singh-Guide, went missing. He was later declared dead. In February of 1987, Peter Pippel was run over by his car in his garage. In March of 1987, David Sands committed suicide by crashing his car into a building. In April of 1987, four developers of space programs died. Mark Wiesner hung himself, Stuart Gooding fell victim of murder, David Greenhalgh fell off the bridge, and Shani Warren drowned. In May of that year, Michael Baker was killed in a car accident.

In a relatively short time, 25 people who worked in the space field died for various reasons. Sidney Sheldon, who discovered this tragic phenomenon, seriously believed that it had to do with aliens.

There is some startling information that looks rather promising concerning the Star Wars program.

Too much to dig into here, but a heads-up for anyone who wants to pursue that further. The main thrust is that Star Wars ain't really about missile protection. The theory seems to have some teeth and might make more sense regarding the "Sheldon" list aspect of your OP.

Jessup, MacDonald, Cooper, I don't really see a need or connection to any ufology secrets that might have made them targets. Those Star Wars scientists though, while probably not UFO-connected either...something weird there.

Originally posted by PhoenixOD
Almost all of the people you have mentioned are not UFO researchers. They are scientists , programers and engineers. A couple of the UFO researchers you mentioned did commit suicide but the deaths dont seem very mysterious.

To me it just seems like Timothy Goode has another book to sell. IMO he is not one of the most credible ufo researchers, i remember hearing him on an ATS interview where he was trying to say Adamski was not a hoaxer.

edit on 12-10-2012 by PhoenixOD because: (no reason given)

I was wondering about Adamski, because his story is a good one, but the way his life ended, it seemed like he was discqreted by even many of his followers. I can't say one way or the other, but when I hear of books and lectures coming out it seems like I smell money, money and more payola.

Antithesis of that would be Gary Wilcox and his meeting two martians and they talked to him for two hours at 10 am April 24th, 1964. When he spotted an oval craft just like Lonnie Zamora did the same day. They were little and had uniforms from head to toe.

But what is so important Gary NEVER made a dime and didn't want to, same for Lonnie Zamora.

Not exclusively assigned to the UFO/Alien enigma, but I think it safe to assume that there is likely several "snuff squads" out there to silence those that:

A. Were given privileged information and warned to not speak about it, but did so anyway.
B. Found or otherwise acquired privileged information they were not supposed to have or been given access to.
C. Found or acquired privileged information that was not to be made public and did so.
D. Hypothesized correctly about privileged information and then became overly vociferous about it.
E. Assumed a cultural or political position considered to be exceedingly or strategically unfavorable to TPTB.
F. Discovered particularly sensitive classified or privileged information and were then deemed a threat to go public.

Of course, you don't have to be a suspense novelist (or fan of one) to know that almost any death can be "made to look like an accident". And let's face it - the goons that carry out these "missions" probably are not always as clever, elegant, or intelligent as those they have been tasked to eliminate. Further, things can "go wrong" during the operation, forcing an adjustment, modification, or less-than-perfect execution (pun intended) of the plan.

Therefore: ...hang on... I hear a knock at my door.. be right back...

Aghhhhhhhhh...............!

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Originally posted by Jchristopher5
An article from Russia today, which I found interesting. I see this no where in Western media, but Timothy Goode has complied research documenting the strange and bizarre deaths of UFO researchers, especially in the United States.

Maybe my eyes are deceiving me, but I'm reading "Timothy Hood" in the article you linked, not "Timothy Goode". In addition, what's up with the following:

In the 1970's and 1980's in the United States there were secret UFO research programs such as the "Blue Book", "Aquarius", "Area 51", "Majestic 12", and GEIPAN.

Does this seem very incorrect to anyone else? Maybe I'm being nit-picky, but one of these was over prior to the 1970s and 1980s, another is a military testing facility, a third may have never existed and yet another is French and not at all secret. I'm not sure what Aquarius is, but I'm guessing the author of the article doesn't either.

reply to post by Orkojoker

Orko, I'm surprised at you. The Aquarius Document was part of the Benniwitz, Moore fiasco. The original document was on a teletex shown to Moore at either the AFOSI or at Kirkland by "Falcon" (Ritkowski). An amenxed version was then given to Moore to feed to Bennewitz in hopes he'd give it to APRO. APRO didnt bite, or Bennewitz kept it to himself.
Moore's copy, omplete with many notations filling in the redacted spots and changes from the doc that Moore first saw eventually ended up at CAUS (stolen from Moore's car?) The Aquarious document supossedly xdtailed an NSA.attempt at.disclosure, it was also the first do ument to mention MJ-12...
Source: Project Beta Greg Bishop

Some minor details may be slightlly off, didnt have time to look up the specifics

Disinfo......smattering of facts.with a buch of BS...

reply to post by Toxicsurf


Ah ok. Thanks for the refresher, Toxicsurf. I'm only vaguely familiar with that whole episode via Dolan. I need to plow through those two volumes again.

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to add to the above comment byToxicsurf,

the "aquarius document" was the first mention of MJ-12





on topic

RT must be bored to publish such a bad story with no investigation behind it