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Originally posted by TheSparrowSings
Keeping all that in mind, I began to think about the amount of high altitude mega cities throughout the Andes, Peru, Bolivia. How many of these sites seem to be a mix of a highly advanced civilization and technological aptitude in their architecture. Interspersed with more of a "refurbished" feeling of a less skilled craftsman. When the Spanish came to South America their reported that local tribesmen would say (about many of these places) that they did not build them, they where there long before their people.
If we take into account the stories of the people of the Andes about Varachocha and him arriving after the deluge to rebuild society... That water levels would have significantly risen after the deluge and the location of great cities... And that, from a scientific perspective, this deluge most likely occurred at the end of the last ice age. (Unless some hidden event has occurred since then that might cause such an event [ei: pole shift...]) I question the dating on these cities. Where mainstream science says that mega cities like Macchu Pichu can be attributed to the Incan's and mostly built "After Common Era" I can see that stories point towards a much older date. 10,000 BC perhaps (post ice age)
Thoughts Anyone?
Originally posted by SLAYER69
Originally posted by TheSparrowSings
Keeping all that in mind, I began to think about the amount of high altitude mega cities throughout the Andes, Peru, Bolivia. How many of these sites seem to be a mix of a highly advanced civilization and technological aptitude in their architecture. Interspersed with more of a "refurbished" feeling of a less skilled craftsman. When the Spanish came to South America their reported that local tribesmen would say (about many of these places) that they did not build them, they where there long before their people.
If we take into account the stories of the people of the Andes about Varachocha and him arriving after the deluge to rebuild society... That water levels would have significantly risen after the deluge and the location of great cities... And that, from a scientific perspective, this deluge most likely occurred at the end of the last ice age. (Unless some hidden event has occurred since then that might cause such an event [ei: pole shift...]) I question the dating on these cities. Where mainstream science says that mega cities like Macchu Pichu can be attributed to the Incan's and mostly built "After Common Era" I can see that stories point towards a much older date. 10,000 BC perhaps (post ice age)
Thoughts Anyone?
I think a place like Gobekli Tepe (B.C. 9,000) pretty much blew archeologists minds at the time when it first came to light. We'd be fools to think that there are no other very ancient sites to be still discovered.edit on 12-10-2012 by SLAYER69 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ubeenhad
reply to post by ChaoticOrder
everything you just listed has been debunked lol.
Originally posted by ubeenhad
Gobekli Tepe is a mystery. But its not enough to bring about a huge change in views. If anything it raises the option that the semantics in the dates of farming, etc are fudged. Not exciting enough.
The Oxford English Dictionary says that scientific method is: "a method or procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses
Originally posted by SLAYER69
Originally posted by ubeenhad
Gobekli Tepe is a mystery. But its not enough to bring about a huge change in views. If anything it raises the option that the semantics in the dates of farming, etc are fudged. Not exciting enough.
It does however move the goal post after decades of denial that there could be cultures and possibly civilizations older than the first 5 earliest civilizations quoted and taught.
Originally posted by Jerk_Idiot
reply to post by ubeenhad
It has been a long time since I have replied to anyone on here. As to your request to basically prove science wrong if I understand you correctly. Simply look at the past. The earth is flat. We are not only the center of the solar system but of the universe. Everything revolves around us. There are no such things as stars, those are merely pinpricks in the solid firmament above that protects us.
Originally posted by Jerk_Idiot
Electrons flow from negative to positive, no wait, from positive to negative, no wait, lets go back to negative to positive. Each of these were FACTS supported by the main stream scientific establishment so much so that at times saying no to it could get you literally killed.
Originally posted by Jerk_Idiot
More recently string theory. There are only TEN dimensions. Anyone who believes in a eleventh dimension was a quack and was effectively banned. There was no such thing as super gravity. Funny thing though is that they found string theory would not work and ended up with five theory's ALL correct! But if you added in the eleventh dimension and super gravity string theory now worked again and ended up with one theory again!
Originally posted by Jerk_Idiot
Magnets have always been a continuous source of energy as shown by the fact they have a continuous magnetic field which requires energy to produce. Simply because we have not figured out how to access this energy without using another source does not dispute this, yet most main stream science ignores this.
Originally posted by TheSparrowSings
reply to post by Jerk_Idiot
Good post, Jerk_Idiot;
Another problem with mainstream science is that these people are their to do a job. They are trained and told specific things and if someone is to step outside this box they could be at risk of losing their jobs. Or they will find they are not content in the current scientific mold and weed themselves out. Therefore mainstream science is left with people who have a very "set" point of view and rarely do things break from the norm.
Originally posted by TheSparrowSings
Then why is there constant discovery.....and rewards for those who make them?
Originally posted by TheIrishJihad
OP you obviously already have your mind made up. So this thread is really just an attempt to troll up responses in my opinion. Nothing Chaotic Order mentioned has been truly debunked. There are many ancient mysteries that ms archaeology has some flimsy explanations for.
Originally posted by ubeenhad
reply to post by Harte
Were have you been my whole life!?