posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 11:07 PM
I love your question..
before we begin, a little "off-topic" for background..
I work in a pub, and after work, the beer fueled conversations are just what you'd expect, people solve the problems of the world, and debate the
unsolved ones in slurred tones..
so a pal asks me if i still call myself "agnostic"...
i tell him that i am comfortable with the word, he tells me that he is reading Dawkins, and that my position as "agnostic" is regarded as cowardly
by that author..
my pal goes on to tell me that in the "WAR" between science and religion, that we cannot give "the enemy" an inch. if (this is my drunk pal
talking now..) IF we give the pope an inch, he'll take 3 miles and we'll have another thousand years of darkness...
a small light bulb went off in my head.. lets see, i was raised a fundamentalist christian in the american midwest, but i left the faith because it
included dumb things like GIANTS...
then as an internet addled adult, i encounter all kinds of cryptids, nessie (of course), and a bunch of GIANTS...
now I know that the OP wants hard data, and we will get there (kentucky straight bourbon whiskey willing) even if i have to post again...
The giants are alledged to have been hidden for a while now.
but like the OP i (used) to regard science as a pretty liberal bunch.
cut to DAN BROWN
when the kids i know at work (im 42) all started reading dan brown and trying to get ME to read him, i guffawed and tried to pass off my old hard back
of holy blood holy grail instead (LOL)
but the illuminati science (protestant/deist/athiest/pagan) VS Catholic religion WAR was real even if you DONT like dan brown.
this is a bit roundabout..
The war between science and religion, though started by religion, has seen atrocities committed by both sides. The atrocities on the sides of religion
are well known, the atrocities on the side of science are still (largely) hidden.
GIANTS ARE A SECRET BECAUSE THEYRE IN THE BIBLE.
i dont believe the bible, but like dawklins and my drunken pal think, if we give THOSE GUYS an inch, they will take away all the learning weve
accumulated.and roll the clock back to some dark ages witch burning dystopia.
ok if you made it past the third grade, you will know that JUST because there were giants, and that the giants are mentioned in a book about yawehs
offspring DOESNT mean that any of the OTHER DATA in the book about yawehs offspring has been confirmed..
but our "enemies" are uneducated and do not use logic...
and so the fiends that lead our enemies, and twist them with half truths and demogoguery must be denied ammunition at any cost.
until we win this war and open up the vaults of anomalies for real examination.
ok so that was my opener.... (sorry im a bit wordy)
if you're still with me, i would like to adress more meaty issues..
OP do you know the work of Christopher Dunn? He's interesting, even if you dont like his ultimate theory (the GP as powerplant) the foundation of his
theory is very well laid and rests on an argument about machine tools at work in egypt. he is worth a read and ill drop a link at ya for ease in my
typo edit (i always do these drinkin)
and then theres that geologist schock.. he took a lot of flack for his observation of rain erosion of the sphinx, but his work looks pretty good, and
would push the timeline backwards a bit (to say the least)
there could even be an argument for cross corellation between the work of schock and the archeo astronomy bunch, who claim that some of the older
sites on earth are alinged to celestial positions only signifigant many thousands of years ealier than we thought.
on another note, i think that the mystery surrounding the domestication of plants and animals is a smoking gun. bananas are a great example of
and lloyd pye, bigfoot believer extrordinaire, has an interesting bit about genes that leads him to claim that he can point right at alien
intervention in our bloodline.
look these guys up if ya want, because its late here and ill get around to posting those links on the morrow..