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Originally posted by BIHOTZ
I get what you are saying though, it is as worthless to give what is not sought after, as it is to receive what you do not know you need. Certain things must be discovered by the seeker, and cannot be shown by the ones who see them. That is true.
Originally posted by Blue Shift
I would like to think that my occasional interest in occult/esoteric teachings is more academic than most, and that I'm nowhere near as fuzzy-headed, creepy and generally odd as other people I see interested in it. I have no particular desire to associate myself with a bunch of weirdos who think they can overcome their social ineptitude and gain power with the help of demons or alchemy.
On the other hand, perhaps I have an inflated opinion of myself, and I'm just as creepy and weird as those other people.
Originally posted by network dude
Originally posted by BIHOTZ
I get what you are saying though, it is as worthless to give what is not sought after, as it is to receive what you do not know you need. Certain things must be discovered by the seeker, and cannot be shown by the ones who see them. That is true.
and with these two sentences, you have uncovered what so many still worry about. The secrets aren't secret because they are purposely kept from anyone, they just have to be requested, so the ones giving them know the initiate is ready to receive them.
I do hope that one day you feel drawn to the fraternity. You sound like you would make a fine mason.
But this is true of any organization, in my experience. The people who know stuff are the people who bother trying to learn stuff.
Originally posted by LUXUS
Any of those who did have a deep knowledge of the occult had achieved it off their own back and had little to do with being a member.
There's nothing stopping a Rosicrucian or a Freemason from reading Blavatsky too, if that's where their interests lie. Just as there's nothing stoping a non-Mason from reading Morals & Dogma. The information is there for anyone to glean. Formal "Masonry" is just one structured system of the presentation of the material. But the material itself has been around forever.
You could learn more about occultism from reading madam Blavatsky books then being a member of the Rosicrucian or Freemasons.
Originally posted by BIHOTZ
So I was thinking.
How many people here are like me in that they enjoy the occult, mystery school teachings, and ancient wisdom in general, but cannot align themselves to ever join a fraternity/ sorority like the masons, or whatever?
I truly enjoy the occult, I find myself gravitating towards the teachings, and tend to really get along with their members, have some good friends that are masons for example, but I can't ever see myself joining if it were offered.
My dilemma is the oaths you must take to secrecy.
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Nit-Picking
chop logic To argue, dispute, or to pettifog, to bandy words; split hairs. This expression, which dates from 1525, is most likely an extension of the now obsolete meaning of chop ‘barter, trade, or exchange.’ Shakespeare used the noun form chop-logic in Romeo and Juliet:
How, now! How, now! Chop-logic! What is this?
“Proud,” and “I thank you,” and “I thank you not,”
And yet “not proud.” (III,v)
nit-pick To be overly concerned with picayune details; to look for inconsequential errors, often to the point of obsessiveness. A nit is the egg or larva of a louse or other parasitic insect. The task of removing all the nits from an infected person or animal can be almost overwhelming as it requires a millimeter-by-millimeter examination with a magnifying glass and tweezers. By extension, a pedantic person immersed in minutiae is often called a nit-picker.
How many people here are like me in that they enjoy the occult, mystery school teachings, and ancient wisdom in general, but cannot align themselves to ever join a fraternity/ sorority like the masons, or whatever?
I truly enjoy the occult, I find myself gravitating towards the teachings....
My dilemma is the oaths you must take to secrecy. I take my oaths very seriously. You could make me take an oath in which I had to protect the fact that the world would end, and I wouldn't even find a reed hut to talk to to warn people.
If I can help people to learn what I have learned, pass along the little I know about life and love, and whatever, I would be ashamed to not be able to do so freely.