Military Employed For Crowd Control At College Football Game This Saturday

The original provision was enacted as Section 15 of chapter 263, of the Acts of the 2nd session of the 45th Congress.
Sec. 15. From and after the passage of this act it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a posse comitatus, or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws, except in such cases and under such circumstances as such employment of said force may be expressly authorized by the Constitution or by act of Congress ;
and no money appropriated by this act shall be used to pay any of the expenses incurred in the employment of any troops in violation of this section and any person willfully violating the provisions of this section shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction thereof shall be punished by fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars or imprisonment not exceeding two years or by both such fine and imprisonment

[7] The text of the relevant legislation is as follows: 18 U.S.C. § 1385. Use of Army and Air Force as posse comitatus
Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

Also notable is the following provision within Title 10 of the United States Code (which concerns generally the organization and regulation of the armed forces and Department of Defense):

10 U.S.C. § 375. Restriction on direct participation by military personnel The Secretary of Defense shall prescribe such regulations as may be necessary to ensure that any activity (including the provision of any equipment or facility or the assignment or detail of any personnel) under this chapter does not include or permit direct participation by a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps in a search, seizure, arrest, or other similar activity unless participation in such activity by such member is otherwise authorized by law.[/ex]

But in 2006 Pres. Bush signed a new bill:

Section 1076 is titled "Use of the Armed Forces in major public emergencies." It provided that:

The President may employ the armed forces... to... restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition... the President determines that... domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order... or [to] suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy if such... a condition... so hinders the execution of the laws... that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law... or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.[9]

Then in it was repealed in it's entirety:

In 2008, these changes in the Insurrection Act of 1807 were repealed in their entirety, reverting to the previous wording of the Insurrection Act[10] that in its original form was written to limit Presidential power as much as possible in the event of insurrection, rebellion, or lawlessness.

Then comes 2012 and Pres Bush 2 or Obama as you know him:

In 2012, U.S. President Barack Obama signed the 2012 Defense Authorization Act into law. Section 1031, clause "b", article 2 defines a 'covered person', i.e., someone possibly subject to martial law, as the following: "A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces." [11]

So there's some history....I know there is more in the current NDAA then is quoted here, but I am short on time so I can't read through it right now. I have a feeling we will find that the orders of the 2006 bill were reinstated, maybe in different words or context? If not than I cant find any legal purpose for this action...but I am no expert.

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Originally posted by Screwed
Our country is being purposely turned into a police state.
This is not a joke and is not up for interpretation.
It is actually happening and guess what?

Most people are not only "OK" with it, not only do they "embrace it"
but they DEMAND it.

They WANT it.
So, I have realized that there is no longer any point in trying to get people to see what is going on here.
People KNOW what is going on..........and they LIKE it!!!

It is WE who are going to have to "wake up".
Wake up to the fact that this is our future and you are not just fighting "the gubberment" but you are fighting
90% of our country who want this.

This is what makes people feel "safe" which makes them "happy".
Good luck with getting people to agree to feel unsafe just so they can have some crappy "freedom".

Originally posted by jude11
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

 

Notice how many people are responding to this violation of American freedoms and rights thread Wrabbit2000?

I guess that answers your question as to where the line is.

I'm going to start posting these in the Rant forum because even tho many Americans don't seem to care, I do. And I'm getting angrier by the day that a Nation that prides itself on fighting for the freedoms and rights of the World's downtrodden won't even stand for themselves.

Peace

edit on 5-10-2012 by jude11 because: (no reason given)

Originally posted by Iwinder

Originally posted by jude11
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

 

Notice how many people are responding to this violation of American freedoms and rights thread Wrabbit2000?

I guess that answers your question as to where the line is.

I'm going to start posting these in the Rant forum because even tho many Americans don't seem to care, I do. And I'm getting angrier by the day that a Nation that prides itself on fighting for the freedoms and rights of the World's downtrodden won't even stand for themselves.

Peace

edit on 5-10-2012 by jude11 because: (no reason given)

Excellent thread and very scary too, I think one reason people don't join this type of thread is that if you are not American and you chime in with a negative vibe you get shot down.

I am familiar with the "you are an a American hater and that is all you post is anti USA."

It seems to me a lot of people in the US have very thin skins and very little tolerance for any critical thinking.

After this post I am counting the seconds down, 1,2,3, Yep here it comes any minute now!

S&F regardless of the abuse I am about to suffer.

Regards, Iwinder