posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 07:59 PM
I think my main point to note here is that these are confrontational and shock-minded by their very nature. That's the whole point. I wouldn't care
to go down the road where Universities outright ban ANY speech or topic...but they do a lot more here than simply allow the free speech and that need
not be offered. They have commons area for a semi-perm display to be erected for their week or however they go. They have electronic amplification.
That may not have been a big thing until recently, but having been in Occupy and using the 'Mic Check' system personally, I can say that's quite a
benefit being given their little protest here.
Now I'll be totally fair...this isn't the only kind of protest on campuses that are presented in such a way or cover an issue outright and
deliberately confrontation or intimidating. You've seen me around here....and you ought to agree there are few more determined and serious about 2nd
amendment rights than I am. I carry by permit as a regular thing and I'd DEARLY LOVE to see college campuses off the ban list. However..... This:
Students for CCW
..and their empty holster protests are precisely the wrong way to do it. What does one have to do with the other? They are both GOOD causes, at least
to many....and legitimate causes regardless. They are both very much of concern to college students nationwide. ....and BOTH issues can be handled
well or very badly. Now it sounds like this group is flakey and their message is....hard edged, to be real nice about it.
They also seem to be real situational about that whole free speech idea themselves......at least at other U.C. Campuses.
The Los Angeles Times has been covering a story about Muslim activists and their Jewish critics on the Irvine campus of the University of
California. The story has been brewing for years but let’s look at the recent events.
In March, Muslim college activists decried the College Republicans plan to hold a discussion about Islamic militancy on campuses and whether some
Islamic groups in the United States are apologists for terrorism. That, along with the group’s publication of the infamous Muhammed cartoons,
didn’t go over well with the activists.
on the event itself as the direct extension of the one the OP is covering..
Controversial events scheduled at UC Irvine next week with such provocative titles as “Holocaust in the Holy Land” and “Israel: The Fourth
Reich” are sparking outrage among Jewish students who are asking administrators to denounce aspects of the event.
Jewish students and community leaders say the program is the latest in a string of offensive incidents at the university. The U.S. Office for Civil
Rights is investigating anti-Semitism at UCI, the first probe of its kind at a
Now, those seminar/presentation titles alone are as offensive as they can be made to Jews without outright crossing into profanity or obscenity by
legal definition, IMO. This last one is a good blog report in terms of details and tone for the event for the protest week at UC Irvine..
Although Malek Ali retiled his stump speech as "The Struggle Has no Borders," the only new material was a reference to Trayvon Martin and the
addition of University of California president Mark Yudon to his ever-growing list of "Zionist Jews." When, during the Q&A, I took him to task for
the latter, he asserted that there is a difference between referring to "Zionist Jews" and simply "Jews." After his speech, a questioner pointed
out to him his infamous quote from his 2010 appearance at UCI, when he told a Jewish questioner, "You Jews. Y'all the new Nazis." That is a direct
quote, yet he denied it, claiming that he always says "Zionist"
I don't know if these guys are a problem or not.. hence, the investigation sounds appropriate. I can say that, like the empty holster protest, they
obviously know by the reports of their protest event, they will offend people and make them distinctly uncomfortable. If they couldn't figure it,
they've obviously been told that. As a College student, I wouldn't care whether I agree with the cause or not......if it disrupted the campus and
made paying students feel uncomfortable, hold it off campus. Easy enough IMO.