reply to post by charles1952
I'm really sorry, but I'm just missing it. As far as I could understand the finding was that most, or all, of DNA has a function; very little, if any,
is waste. I don't understand how that shows evolution has been disproved.
It may or may not have. I don't agree or disagree with the OP. But to understand the argument it stems from a branch of mathematics called
. This is where you quantify what is and what isn't information.
What most evolutionists/creationists end up arguing about is if the information in the DNA got their randomly or was it designed and put there by
The truth of it is you can never really tell if information is random or not. Eventually you realize there is no such thing as random. Once you
realize that you realize there is no such thing as information either. The whole concept just falls apart.
There's just sets of data and some of those sets you will be partial to, like the one that makes up your DNA, and you'll call that set information and
other sets you won't care about and you'll say those are random. Like the number of rocks in your back yard.
For example. Did the rocks in your back yard get there randomly or did God put them there? Well you can't tell from just looking at the rocks. You
could have 10 rocks at random, or 10 rocks planted by God. Either way you have 10 rocks. So, how do you tell if it's random or not? You can't.
So you can't measure randomness really. What you can measure though is deviation from the norm and how likely something is to be random. For example
if you have 45,000 rocks in your backyard and everyone else in your neighborhood has around 10, well something is off here. Perhaps someone dumped a
bunch of rocks in your back yard right?
Now to understand the DNA argument you have to understand the infinite monkey
The infinite monkey theorem states that a monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time will almost surely
type a given text, such as the complete works of William Shakespeare.
Now given a sheet of paper how can one tell if was written by a monkey or not? You can't for sure. There is no set of data that can't be created
randomly. However, if you collect enough papers you can set a probability based on deviation from the norm.
If a human was writing a book the norm would be whatever language they're writing it in, such as English. The pages would have a normal distribution
of English letter frequencies and normal distribution of English words. This is because the English language has rules. It's a guided process.
But if a monkey wrote it then there are no rules to confine the data set. The letter X is just as common as the letter E. The word yellow is just as
common as the word SLDFJKLJ#$%#KJSCDFKSJ! Therefore even if some of the scraps of paper might appear to be Shakespeare you can tell it's just random
gibberish because the other 99% of pages don't conform to the rules. An unguided process.
So this is the real way to tell if something is random or not. If it's intelligently designed then for the most part, like 99% of the time, you'll
just have the working data set with very little junk. Since the designer knows the rules he doesn't have to waste time whacking keys at random.
If it's created randomly then you'll also have that SAME GOOD data set. But you're also very likely to have a bunch of junk on the side that doesn't
really do anything. Given the same amount of time an unguided process should produce far more junk than a guided process.
So that's where the DNA debate comes in. If the DNA has a lot of junk, it's evidence for evolution. If there is no junk, well that's evidence of a
guided process. Something was guiding the process preventing a lot of random junk from entering the DNA.
But what could that process be? Well it could be God. Or it could be things like survival of the fittest too or even aliens. There's really no way to
know. All we know is something in the system prevents junk DNA from forming.
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