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If you do not believe in materialism , and even believe that it is evil or wrong, then shouldn't death be something that is desired as an escape from the material world?
Originally posted by arpgme
Whether you identify with "The Body" or "The Spirit" you are still identifying with some THING.
Physicality is Matter and Energy, and Spirit is Energy - it isstill something "physical". Probably it has more freedom because it can think something and go there or have it, but what are these "thoughts"? It is PHYSICAL things. The fact that it is the mind thinking of PHYSICAL things does not change the fact that it is still about materialism.
Even if I am just the observer and I am observing this life, it does not change the fact that the pain is still felt and happens. If the body burns, whether I am just an "observer" or not - the pain is still felt.
Telling a person who is being tortured that they are just the "awareness" will not ease the pain.
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by awake1234
If material existence is thought of as 'things', then there is no actual 'things' - 'things' are just thoughts.
thanks this is a good one
though it seems contradictory to refer to 'present' in exclusionary terms, when the present moment is comprised of 'things' making the experience possible...and by definition this 'present' becomes another 'thing' the 'moment' its referred to.
this conundrum appears predicated upon the dualistic nature of "language", which is inherently as a referent system, always describing 'things'...in which case...everything is a thing