Originally posted by billy197300
reply to post by MagnumOpus
My opinion is that you are right. Religion has no right to be involved at these events. That being said, my daughter and I go to football games as
often as possible. Love it. Fun times. Before every game they do have a little prayer, but, honestly I could care less. I am just there to see
some footbaaaaalllllllll. It doesn't bother me in the slightest. I just assume it is for the players really, if saying a little prayer before hand
makes them feel better about getting their heads knocked in for my amusement.......more power to them.
Thanks for your views.
It gets interesting when one considers the issues of Jerry Sandusky and the bigger issues of the Catholic Church being so similar. Both are issues
where the laws were ignored due to the might of the institution, which isn't supposed to happen, ever.
In the issues of prayer at state Colleges appears as a marriage of church to state, and again the values of the Constititional Laws and intentions are
tossed out the _ An example of the thinking that leads to this:
Like Catholic Church, Penn State kept abuse secret
The phenomenon at work in both the church's global response to pedophile priests and Penn State's response to a single molester in the ranks of its
athletic staff has been a factor in the downfall of institutions and governments throughout history, said the Rev. Thomas Doyle, a canon lawyer who
has testified in clergy abuse trials in North America and Europe.
"Institutions at a certain point in their existence become greater than the sum total of the people who make them up," Doyle said. "The institution
… becomes more sacred than the people it's supposed to serve."
At Penn State, the institution was largely defined by football, Doyle said.
Responsible for Penn State's prestige and position on the national stage, the football program and its leader for more than 40 years, Joe Paterno, are
often credited with building the university from a small agricultural college to an internationally respected research institution by drawing in
millions in donations.
It appears the state College institution thinks it is more important than the Constitutional Law involved by allowing clergy, or preachers, to lead
any form of prayer or silence at their football games.
Such bold running over the laws, will result in the running over of many other laws, and an arrogance toward following issues such as worker
protection laws, drug and alcohol laws, sports athletics protection from injury, and telling the simple truths.
It begins with poor interpretations of the legal precidence for allowing prayer and it multiplies with even greater violations that led ultimately to
cases like Sandusky and Predator Priests as they think they can get away with anything.
As it exists on campuses, like UT, the issues of alcohol on campus get ignored by every police in the region for the purposes of tail-gating on state
property. Fraternity folks come to games so drunk they can't stand up and have to be walked to and from the game by others holding them up. This
corrupts the issues of state again, due to police not acting to do their jobs because getting drunk on campus is suddenly legalized for football
Likewise, the police won't enforce the state's smoking rules and that runs out of control at football games.
And the list of issues that breaking the laws for football games allows goes on and on. One even finds a few preachers coming to Games and getting
passed out drunk and the local Police making sure they get driven home, with state assistance, in place of being arrested for public drunkeness.
This is only part of what one sees from Football sports greed for money.
Want to really see what happens when institiutions like UT ignore Constitutional Values, the laws in general for football games. Check what was
happening at UT for the pre-game party at fraternities where the UT police allow them to get away with anything. The KPD had to be called in and
arrests occured, else the UT police would do the usual game of cover up. imho
UT student hospitalized after alcohol enema
The potential suspension stems from an incident over the weekend that landed a student in the hospital with a potentially deadly blood alcohol
Alexander Broughton, 20, was dropped off at UT Medical Center around 1:30 a.m. Saturday, Knoxville Police said.
Hospital staff told Knoxville Police investigators that Broughton was in critical condition and unresponsive when he arrived, with a blood alcohol
content level greater than 0.4, which is considered toxic and potentially deadly.
KPD investigators went to campus Saturday morning and found several other people, including three men, passed out at the PIKE house.
After conducting several interviews, investigators determined the fraternity members had used rubber tubing to give each other alcohol enemas. Police
said the practice heightens and speeds up the process of alcohol entering the blood stream because it bypasses the liver's filters.
12 cited with underage drinking at UT frat house after 'butt chugging' incident
Broughton registered 4.0 when his blood-alcohol level was checked early Saturday at UT Hospital. Campus police are investigating reports that the
student had ingested alcohol rectally. Police said when they arrived at the fraternity house, they found several people passed out.
Such drunken bahaviors have long been the norm for many fraternities for game day party time. Such violations of the Constitutional Laws appear to
already be well on the way toward destruction of the institution. imho
edit on 26-9-2012 by MagnumOpus because: The Violations of Law at Universities and Colleges runs deep and into Constitutional