How come that the muslim world is feeling so much like a victim, when the rest of the world would simply overlook any provocative mockery about
Is there really, in the islamic ideology, something that prevents the rest of the world, the non muslim world, to act in the way they want to, even if
that includes mocking the muslims?
And if so, how can the world deal with such a situation where different cultures, different civilisations, cannot be mixed because of uncurable
incompatibility of ideas?
Is there any way that the general population in muslim countries could be brought to a state of mind where they can simply accept that others might
mock them, without feeling insulted?
This portion of text is a personal thought. I am not trying to insult anyone, rather I am trying to understand why some things are the way they are,
and how it could be possible to accomodate to differences, instead of using those differences as a source for trouble. This is not denigration.
Please refrain from using anger or insult. If you disagree with me, tell it like it is and I will read, and we will discuss. We can agree that we
disagree, but I do not want to create a "war of opinions". We have the right to have different opinions.
I have the feeling that, in its current stage at least, the muslim world and the non muslim world are so incompatible that they simply should better
Indeed, our said western civilisation is now largely based on a very important part of freedom. Freedom of religion, freedom of sexual orientation for
the most part, freedom of ideas, freedom of speach (within certain limits again), we have the freedom to drive our lives more or less the way we want,
while remaining within laws.
However, the Coran and the different hadiths seem to cover practically every aspect of life, from the general laws of how the entire society should be
to extremely intimate aspects of the private life. Everything is ruled, everything is enforced or forbidden, accepted or discouraged, and there is so
to say very very limited place for actual freedom. The people can't actually be really different to their neighbours, they all have the exact same
ruling of their very life.
It seems that anything anywhere in the world that is not like the Koran says it should be is automatically dismissed as being evil.
This would not be a real problem as long as those two different ways of encompassing life did never mix. But now we are facing a problem.
To the muslims, it seems that the rest of the world, or at least the "western world", is against them, is corrupt, is trying to fight them. They are
the enemy of the muslims. And to the "western world", it seems that the muslims are trying to conquer us, that they are trying to enforce their
rules over ours.
Can't they be sufficiently satisfied if they simply say "That's wrong but I don't care about it. Let them do as they please."? That's how every
other mocked one has been reacting so far, practically speaking.
In our world, we have the right to publish such drawings.
In their world, they don't.
So, where does freedom really ends?
Is it actually still freedom if, in order to satisfy a part of the world, we cannot use a form of humour that we have used before?
Is it actually still freedom if, we have to accept rules that don't really belong to our civilisation?
Is it actually still freedom if, a religion, which is ultimately a personal choice, dominates what our cultural heritage has brought us?
Wouldn't it be more freedom if, they would allow themselves to laugh at it with us, together?
Wouldn't it be more freedom if, in the end, all the people in the world would stop using their religion as an argument to be against the others?
Wouldn't it be, in the end, a better world if every person on (and around) the planet could accept that maybe, they could be the one who's wrong,
that actually maybe it's the others that are right ?
Your own freedom ends where your neighbour's start. Accepting the differences, it is about accepting that sometimes, we simply have to aknowledge
that others have their own right, would it be wrong to us.
I am actually starting to wonder if, in islam, there is a place for accepting a mockery that's targetted at them. If there is not, then clearly,
freedom has ended there.
Please discuss this wisely, intelligently. Please do not flame or troll.
In particular I would like to have as many muslims, from all countries, react to this. It would be good to have a real exchange of opinions, of ideas,
instead of all the flaming that occurs everywhere else.
ATS is a place that's filled with excellent posters, great minds, very much respect for others. Keep it this way. I will
request deletion of
this thread if people start reacting in a disrespectful way.
Thanks for reading.