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Mitt Romney says it's a compliment to be called the grandfather of Obamacare, the health care law championed by President Barack Obama and scorned by Republicans — including Romney himself.
Obama has said the health care law Romney backed while governor of Massachusetts is the basis of the federal Affordable Care Act, enacted in 2010. Speaking at a Univision forum Wednesday night, the Republican presidential nominee said that now and then Obama calls him the grandfather of Obamacare.
Romney said, "I don't think he meant that as a compliment, but I'll take it." He went on to defend the Massachusetts law but says it is wrong for the federal government to take that approach. Grandfather or not, Romney has pledged to repeal Obamacare if elected president.
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
The problem is that you don't understand what he is saying.
He is saying that Obama copied him,
Originally posted by FlyersFan
He is saying that he's proud to be the first one to come up with Romney/Obama care.
But at the same time .. he wants to kill it.
So how can you be proud of something but want it dead at the same time?
You can't.
According to NBC News’ Andrew Rafferty, Pawlenty has been pursuing a private sector gig since dropping out of the presidential race last summer. For months, Pawlenty has doggedly stumped for Romney. He was considered a potential running-mate for the former Massachusetts governor with blue-collar, “Sam’s Club” appeal. As a candidate Pawlenty was often a harsh critic of the bank bailouts; he once told Bloomberg that he would tell Wall Street to “get your snout out of the trough just like everybody else.”
Former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty (R) has been tapped as the new head of the Financial Services Roundtable, a major Wall Street lobbying group.
Originally posted by jtma508
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
I'm also from MA and we were between a rock and a hard place. The medical system in MA was on the verge of coming apart and something had to be done. Hospitals were getting slammed as more and more people used the ER's as their personal doctor's office. Yea, we should have run all the lawyers and most of the health insurance CEO's through a wood-chipper and solved the problem THAT way but no politician is going to PO the knobs they polish. Romney included.
Originally posted by madenusa
Republicans don't have huge ideological differences with their Democratic counterparts—
this is the dirty little secret of American politics.
Reports from closed-door meetings held during the creation of Obamacare all indicate there was no partisan bickering.
Conservatives all over the world have embraced universal health care, in one form or another. Conservatives in America would, too, if it were introduced by a Republican, even a moderate Republican.
Because partisanship trumps ideology every day in American politics.
More important than any specific plan's ideological roots are its partisan roots:
A jobs plan presented by a Republican president, which includes stimulus spending by the federal government, would pass in the most conservative Congress in history with votes to spare.
Why do Americans let their elected leaders get away with this?
Because to most Americans, politics is just another sport. We root for our favorite team, regardless of which team is more deserving of our support. We buy what our leaders tell us on our favorite partisan network.
It's not any way to govern, but it works to run up the score.
Originally posted by madenusa
Conservatives all over the world have embraced universal health care, in one form or another. Conservatives in America would, too, if it were introduced by a Republican, even a moderate Republican.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by madenusa
Conservatives all over the world have embraced universal health care, in one form or another. Conservatives in America would, too, if it were introduced by a Republican, even a moderate Republican.
I respectfully disagree. Conservatism does have a strong ideological undercurrent, and that is that people should not depend on, and count on, the government, even for most reasonable services that the rest of the world takes for granted. I find the Cons stance moronic, but oh well. So I don't believe at all that they would support a true version of universal health care, which I think would be an excellent idea.
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by madenusa
Conservatives all over the world have embraced universal health care, in one form or another. Conservatives in America would, too, if it were introduced by a Republican, even a moderate Republican.
I respectfully disagree. Conservatism does have a strong ideological undercurrent, and that is that people should not depend on, and count on, the government, even for most reasonable services that the rest of the world takes for granted. I find the Cons stance moronic, but oh well. So I don't believe at all that they would support a true version of universal health care, which I think would be an excellent idea.
Then why did Republicans propose it in 1993 before Democrats dreamed it up. And in 1993 Democrats opposed it.
www.npr.org...
Originally posted by wardk28
He will try to appeal to more Independents and moderate Democrats.