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Originally posted by luciddream
Ah the "My religion is more right" trick... an oldest trick in the old middle east.edit on 9/17/2012 by luciddream because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by luciddream
Ah the "My religion is more right" trick... an oldest trick in the old middle east.edit on 9/17/2012 by luciddream because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Originally posted by luciddream
Ah the "My religion is more right" trick... an oldest trick in the old middle east.edit on 9/17/2012 by luciddream because: (no reason given)
It's not about religions. It's about faith and what is true about Jesus the Messiah and what he said. According to him he is the only one who ever ascended and descended, so Muhammad is in error. By Muhammad saying he ascended and descended he is saying his is Messiah as according to Proverbs 30:4 and John 3:13, so he is putting himself above Jesus which is blasphemy.
Originally posted by schuyler
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
It's not a matter of Christians criticizing Islam. The basic issue is this. The Christian religion claims Jesus ascended into Heaven from Jerusalem. Now what is a newer less established religion going to do? They need to claim the same thing, so they have Mohammed and his horse ascend to Heaven from the Second Temple to show their God is as good as the Christian God, plus they add a horse to do him one better. Plus they build their Dome on the Rock right on top of the Second Temple. It's just like the new cat on the block marking his territory by peeing on top of the old cat's marking spots.
Originally posted by TheGreatDivider
Originally posted by raiders247
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by raiders247
Who cares?
What good does it do to ponder the claims of historical science fiction?
We should debate facts not hearsay... just my 2 cents
If that's your desire, might I suggest refraining from faith-based forums and threads.
Why should I do that?
This website's motto is "Deny Ignorance"
Don't shoot the messenger...
ETA: In my experience it's this forum (religion/faith) that promotes the most ignorance, if ATS truly wanted to deny ignorance they would remove this forumedit on 9/17/2012 by raiders247 because: (no reason given)
Proverbs 1:7
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Originally posted by apushforenlightment
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Originally posted by luciddream
Ah the "My religion is more right" trick... an oldest trick in the old middle east.edit on 9/17/2012 by luciddream because: (no reason given)
It's not about religions. It's about faith and what is true about Jesus the Messiah and what he said. According to him he is the only one who ever ascended and descended, so Muhammad is in error. By Muhammad saying he ascended and descended he is saying his is Messiah as according to Proverbs 30:4 and John 3:13, so he is putting himself above Jesus which is blasphemy.
Nobody is above Jesus and nobody is below Jesus from my point of view. He knows more about some things but knowing more does not equal worth. You are making Jesus into an idol where he was the message and messanger in one connected to the whole. He is part of god and can be guided by god in the oneness and because of the closeness between them him or god would say the same thing. But he is not the whole god. If he was the earth would have been destroyed/altered with the rest of this galaxy.
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Originally posted by schuyler
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
It's not a matter of Christians criticizing Islam. The basic issue is this. The Christian religion claims Jesus ascended into Heaven from Jerusalem. Now what is a newer less established religion going to do? They need to claim the same thing, so they have Mohammed and his horse ascend to Heaven from the Second Temple to show their God is as good as the Christian God, plus they add a horse to do him one better. Plus they build their Dome on the Rock right on top of the Second Temple. It's just like the new cat on the block marking his territory by peeing on top of the old cat's marking spots.
Yes, and one look within the Hebrew Bible with it's New Testament companion, leaves their Quran in the dirt because Yahweh saw this coming a long time ago so he left provisions with which we could combat the 7th head of the Beast that himself shall be the 8th.
If you don't believe why are you here? A real atheist wouldn;t set foot in a forum if he "disbelieved" the things spoken of in. Just sayin.
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
In the Exodus it doesn't say just a part of Yahweh came down on Mt. Sinai, it says He was there and he commanded Moses not to allow any of of his people to touch the mountain or they would die.
Originally posted by raiders247
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
I'm here to deny ignorance.
Originally posted by raiders247
Religions have caused more harm to our species/planet/environment than any atheist ever will.
Then deny yourself, take up your cross, and follow Jesus Christ.
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
In the Exodus it doesn't say just a part of Yahweh came down on Mt. Sinai, it says He was there and he commanded Moses not to allow any of of his people to touch the mountain or they would die.
None of Allah was on Mt. Sinai. Ehjeh was.
Originally posted by raiders247
reply to post by truejew
Then deny yourself, take up your cross, and follow Jesus Christ.
My brother I'd pray for you if there was ever any proof that a prayer worked.
To me following Jesus Christ is the equivalent of following Bugs Bunny.
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by raiders247
Religions have caused more harm to our species/planet/environment than any atheist ever will.
You seriously believe that religions have caused more harm than the 20th Century atheists Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot did?
I'm sure that you're fully aware that there were only three major purely religious wars in history, right? And that less than 5,000 people died in the vaunted Inquisitions? And that the combined death count of those atheist leaders exceeds 70 million people, right?
Just sayin.
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
At least with Jesus you won't be dropping anvils on anyone's heads.
Originally posted by ThinkingCap
reply to post by TheGreatDivider
"Fear is the beginning of knowledge"
No.. No, that's just wrong.
And isn't knowledge supposed to be a big no-no in Christianity (Evil Talking Snake 1:23)
Originally posted by raiders247
reply to post by truejew
Then deny yourself, take up your cross, and follow Jesus Christ.
My brother I'd pray for you if there was ever any proof that a prayer worked.
To me following Jesus Christ is the equivalent of following Bugs Bunny.
Originally posted by raiders247
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
At least with Jesus you won't be dropping anvils on anyone's heads.
You are right! Instead we would advocate slavery, incest, genocide and narcissism.
An anvil seems harmless in comparison.