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Quran(18:4-6).
Those who believe that Allah has a son must be admonished since this is a monstrous blasphemy and falsehood
Jews say that Ezra is the son of Allah while the Christians say the Messiah is the son of Allah. May Allah destroy them. They are both perverted. They worship rabbis, monks and the Messiah, the son of Mary, as Lords besides Allah in opposition to the monotheistic command given them (9:30, 31).
Originally posted by raiders247
Who cares?
What good does it do to ponder the claims of historical science fiction?
We should debate facts not hearsay... just my 2 cents
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by raiders247
Who cares?
What good does it do to ponder the claims of historical science fiction?
We should debate facts not hearsay... just my 2 cents
If that's your desire, might I suggest refraining from faith-based forums and threads.
Originally posted by luciddream
Ah the "My religion is more right" trick... an oldest trick in the old middle east.edit on 9/17/2012 by luciddream because: (no reason given)
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
Originally posted by raiders247
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by raiders247
Who cares?
What good does it do to ponder the claims of historical science fiction?
We should debate facts not hearsay... just my 2 cents
If that's your desire, might I suggest refraining from faith-based forums and threads.
Why should I do that?
This website's motto is "Deny Ignorance"
Don't shoot the messenger...
ETA: In my experience it's this forum (religion/faith) that promotes the most ignorance, if ATS truly wanted to deny ignorance they would remove this forumedit on 9/17/2012 by raiders247 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ThinkingCap
reply to post by TheGreatDivider
"Fear is the beginning of knowledge"
No.. No, that's just wrong.
And isn't knowledge supposed to be a big no-no in Christianity (Evil Talking Snake 1:23)
Originally posted by auraelium
How could Jesus refute that Mohamad didnt decend from heaven when Mohammad was born 500 years after Jesus supposedly lived?
To be fair to Muslims at least we know that Mohammad did realy exist in the historical record.theres no refernce to Jesus in the historical record and no evidence he ever existed.
But neither were Gods, except in fairytales...........
"When Pilate, upon hearing him accused by men of the highest standing amongst us, had condemned him to be crucified. . . ."
Josephus, Antiquities 18.64. Josephus in Ten Volumes, vol. 9, Jewish Antiquities, Loeb Classical Library Louis H. Feldman, trans. (Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 1981).
"Nero fastened the guilt [of the burning of Rome] and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus."
Tacitus, Annals 15.44 (c. A.D. 115).
"The Christians, you know, worship a man to this day-the distinguished personage who introduced their novel rites, and was crucified on that account."
Lucian of Samosata, The Death of Peregrine, 11-13 (c. mid-second century).
"on the eve of the Passover Yeshu was hanged."(12)- Yeshu is Joshua in Hebrew. The equivalent in Greek is lesous (13) or Jesus. Being hung on a tree was used to describe crucifixion in antiquity.(14)
12. Talmud, Sanhedrin 43a (probably late second century). It should be noted that Jewish writings of antiquity never denied the existence, miracles, and execution of Jesus. See John P. Meier, A Marginal Jew: Rethinking the Historical Jesus, 3 vols. (New York: Doubleday, 1991-2001), 1:96-97.
13. Pronounced "ee-ay-soos."
14. Livy 1:26:6ff; Luke 23:39; Galatians 3:13.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by raiders247
Do what you want. I myself hate water chestnuts, but I don't gorge myself on them then complain about having to eat them.
Originally posted by raiders247
In my experience it's this forum (religion/faith) that promotes the most ignorance, if ATS truly wanted to deny ignorance they would remove this forum
Originally posted by raiders247
Who cares?
What good does it do to ponder the claims of historical science fiction?
We should debate facts not hearsay... just my 2 cents