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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Akragon
Ill do the rest tomorrow. But as far as the Trinity goes, (and no more red herrings, one topic at a time), I think of white light. It's made up of 3 primary colors yet it's one color of light, white. Also, i've told you this already, you either weren't paying attention or you rejected it before investigating it yourself. The Hebrew word for "one" in the Shema is the same Hebrew word used when it says Adam and Eve became "one" flesh. They were one in unity, purpose and will.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Akragon
No, white is the three primary colors. Look at a color wheel from art.
And Jesus is quoting the "Shema" in that verse. Google "Shema" bro, it's the most famous verse in Judaism. I just explained the Hebrew word used for "one" in that verse above. It means "one in unity", not the number before two. The same Hebrew word is used when it says Adam and Eve became "one flesh".
edit on 20-9-2012 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by NOTurTypical
A. The Father
B. Jesus
C Holy spirit
Does 1 +1 + 1 = 1?
edit on 20-9-2012 by Akragon because: (no reason given)
The concept that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts has been known from the time of Aristotle and become a common phrase in English. The same concept might be stated in several different ways and different authors might have something slightly different in mind when they use the phrase.
1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
The transitive property of equality says that if a=b, then b=c.To Prove:
Using the equation:
a=b
substituting the value of b in terms of c:
which is: b=c
therefore:
a=b
a=(c)
a=c
For these [viz. teeth and all other parts of natural beings] and all other natural things come about as they do either always or for the most part, whereas nothing which comes about due to chance or spontaneity comes about always or for the most part. … If, then, these are either the result of coincidence or for the sake of something, and they cannot be the result of coincidence or spontaneity, it follows that they must be for the sake of something. Moreover, even those making these sorts of claims [viz. that everything comes to be by necessity] will agree that such things are natural. Therefore, that for the sake of which is present among things which come to be and exist by nature. (Phys. 198b32–199a8)
Originally posted by WarminIndy
According to Aristotle, there must be a cause for everything, nothing happens randomly. So the concept of God not creating the universe, but through a random act of spontaneity it cannot then happen. Evolution does not occur within the philosophy of Aristotle.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Akragon
No, white is the three primary colors. Look at a color wheel from art.
And Jesus is quoting the "Shema" in that verse. Google "Shema" bro, it's the most famous verse in Judaism. I just explained the Hebrew word used for "one" in that verse above. It means "one in unity", not the number before two. The same Hebrew word is used when it says Adam and Eve became "one flesh".
edit on 20-9-2012 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)
The Hebrew numeric system operates on the additive principle in which the numeric values of the letters are added together to form the total. Example: 249 corresponds to 200 + 40 + 9 = 249. It is represented as below:
Originally posted by Prezbo369
Originally posted by WarminIndy
According to Aristotle, there must be a cause for everything, nothing happens randomly. So the concept of God not creating the universe, but through a random act of spontaneity it cannot then happen. Evolution does not occur within the philosophy of Aristotle.
Evolution doesn't occur due to random events, infact it occurs due to the complete opposite of random
I wish you guys would get this part right......
Based on measurements of the expansion using Type Ia supernovae, measurements of temperature fluctuations in the cosmic microwave background
Originally posted by WarminIndy
Originally posted by Prezbo369
Originally posted by WarminIndy
According to Aristotle, there must be a cause for everything, nothing happens randomly. So the concept of God not creating the universe, but through a random act of spontaneity it cannot then happen. Evolution does not occur within the philosophy of Aristotle.
Evolution doesn't occur due to random events, infact it occurs due to the complete opposite of random
I wish you guys would get this part right......
Throwback to the Big Bang Theory.
Based on measurements of the expansion using Type Ia supernovae, measurements of temperature fluctuations in the cosmic microwave background
Would you not agree that fluctuations are random events? You cannot be sure when the temperature will fluctuate, therefore not predictable, therefore random.
Originally posted by Akragon
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Akragon
No, white is the three primary colors. Look at a color wheel from art.
And Jesus is quoting the "Shema" in that verse. Google "Shema" bro, it's the most famous verse in Judaism. I just explained the Hebrew word used for "one" in that verse above. It means "one in unity", not the number before two. The same Hebrew word is used when it says Adam and Eve became "one flesh".
edit on 20-9-2012 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)
Meh... i failed art...
So again... you're saying Three Gods... Not one...
Perhaps you could show where it says theres three Gods.... Without the usual 1 John 5:7–8 passage which was clearly added after the fact...
Originally posted by Prezbo369
Evolution doesn't occur due to random events, infact it occurs due to the complete opposite of random
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by truejew
You're quite wrong, Polycarp taught that the Lord Jesus Christ and the Father aren't the same personhood of God.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
And I never said Polycarp taught there were three gods, you're burning straw men.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by truejew
"Burning straw men" means using a straw man fallacy. Inventing and substituting your own version of what someone says and attacking your own version instead of what the other person actually said.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
And Trinitarians are "monotheists". If people believe in multiple Gods they would be a "polytheist".
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
And I posted Polycarp's own statements showing he said the Son and the Father are co-existent. Can you refute that with a quote from him saying the Son and the Father are the same personality?
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by NOTurTypical
oh i see... so killing a homosexual isn't murder... :shk:
Btw i respect everything you say... i just don't agree with everything you say
That's why I link things. What did you learn by reading the law of noncontradiction link?
God allowed His own Son to be murdered who never once sinned against Him. Now what do you think He feels when a person purposely chooses to do something that they know beforehand carries the death penalty and knows that God has already called an "abomination"?
Why is God not allowed to be righteous and holy? Or Sovereign over His own universe? And what about my question? Would you be a hypocrite when you drank alcohol?
edit on 20-9-2012 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Akragon
We aren't talking about innocent in man's eyes. Who is innocent before GOD's eyes? No one. God doesn't compare us to the drunk down the street who beats his wife, He compares us to His Son. And you can't assume something is God's word to criticize Him, then immediately use the rescuing device that it's not God's Word when you are faced with a tough question. And what about my other Q? Would you be contradicting yourself if you drank alcohol?
And no I don't wonder, you've done what man has done for thousands of years. Created an idol. Shopped for or invented a god to your liking instead of aligning yourself with the One true God and Creator.
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Akragon
And not entirely accurate, you're about 85% there. The LONC states A and B both cannot be true and false in the same contextual relationship simultaneously. Example. There cannot be only One God and many gods. Either one of those two is correct, or neither are correct. Both claims cannot be true simultaneously in the same contextual relationship because they contradict.
Originally posted by WarminIndy
Originally posted by Prezbo369
Originally posted by WarminIndy
According to Aristotle, there must be a cause for everything, nothing happens randomly. So the concept of God not creating the universe, but through a random act of spontaneity it cannot then happen. Evolution does not occur within the philosophy of Aristotle.
Evolution doesn't occur due to random events, infact it occurs due to the complete opposite of random
I wish you guys would get this part right......
Throwback to the Big Bang Theory.
Based on measurements of the expansion using Type Ia supernovae, measurements of temperature fluctuations in the cosmic microwave background
Would you not agree that fluctuations are random events? You cannot be sure when the temperature will fluctuate, therefore not predictable, therefore random.
Originally posted by apushforenlightment
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Akragon
And not entirely accurate, you're about 85% there. The LONC states A and B both cannot be true and false in the same contextual relationship simultaneously. Example. There cannot be only One God and many gods. Either one of those two is correct, or neither are correct. Both claims cannot be true simultaneously in the same contextual relationship because they contradict.
It is not always one end of the extremes that is the thruth even if they seem to contridict each other. That type off thinking only leads to duality and limited understanding.