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You pick and choose what God you want. That's your problem. You don't get to pick who the Creator is. He is who is says He is.
That being said, if you had actually read ALL of the Old Testament, you would know why all of those things happened and why God gave those people to Israel.
All things belong to God. However He chooses for His will to be enforced is His to decide. You are not your own. I am not my own. If He wills either of us to die a certain way, so be it.
However, He did send Jesus Christ to save us from our sins, to make everyone, no longer only Jews, an heir to the Throne of God through Him (thereby making all the people of the world Israel and no longer just the Jews; which is why God no longer uses His people to punish entire cities or nations; but instead sends them out to convert the unbelieving because all now have access to the Kingdom of God, because all people belong to Jesus Christ; except that one must accept to be a part of Israel, which is no longer a country of land [which thing happens to be an established country according to the order of men today, not God] but a country of people - as it always ways, actually; He called them Israel when they were in captivity as well).
Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
You have not performed your research and your heart is not right - by the very fact that you say that God is not the god that you choose for yourself. You have only sought to justify God's good instead of God's wrath. The Creator has a right to His anger and to His wrath; much more so than you or I ever should claim. You do not have authority over Him and what He does; for you to question it and justify yourselves instead of to justify the Lord, who does all things for a purpose, is childish and foolish at best.
That being said, also, if you claim that you do not love the God of the Old Testament, then you cannot possibly love the God of the New Testament. If you had paid attention you would recognize that Jesus Christ Himself, before He was born in the flesh, was and is the very God that performed the works of the Old Testament.
And if you forget also, the Lord will judge the world harshly again. Do not mistake His kindness for weakness. He is a strong God. The people of the world and their picking and choosing of their gods will suffer even more greatly than Israel did after they rejected Christ. Why? Because the whole world, not just the Jews, have rejected.
Originally posted by windword
reply to post by billy197300
You can't argue logic with religious nutters Wind, your wasting your time.
HAHA! How true! But, it's posts like yours and Jiggerj's that I "live to post" for! Sanity among the insane, a breath of fresh air!
Long live common sense!
Originally posted by windword
reply to post by DeadSeraph
Nah. You have the same M.O. for every thread. The same "hit and run" insults that never address the topic at hand. That's why these questions keep getting brought up, again and again, there aren't being sufficiently addressed.
If we want to keep up and stay on topic, sometimes we have to reiterate things that we have said in other threads of similar topics. Surely, you don't think that a person who feels motivated to follow and contribute in certain forums should just shut up because "it's been said before?"
There are plenty of Christian posters that are able and willing to intelligently discuss these issues. Even though we seldom agree eye to eye, we have learned to respect each other differences, and can find common philosophies. It doesn't always have to be a brick walled, troll fest.
I don't mean to point the finger at you directly, but many of the questions you've asked in this very thread (as if to indicate they invalidate the christian religion somehow), have already been addressed to you specifically in other threads.
Originally posted by windword
reply to post by r2d246
7) If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask for whatever you want and it will be done for you. (John 15:7 NAB)
Clearly this isn't true. Even Mother Teresa's prayers went unanswered.
At best, this God is a justification for their thinking, or at worst, he's an evil super deity/alien. Either way, God save us from the God of the Old Testament!
Where is my faith?" she wrote. "Even deep down… there is nothing but emptiness and darkness... If there be God — please forgive me."
Eight years later, she was still looking to reclaim her lost faith.
"Such deep longing for God… Repulsed, empty, no faith, no love, no zeal," she said.
As her fame increased, her faith refused to return. Her smile, she said, was a mask.
"What do I labor for?" she asked in one letter. "If there be no God, there can be no soul. If there be no soul then, Jesus, You also are not true."
Where is my faith?" she wrote. "Even deep down… there is nothing but emptiness and darkness... If there be God — please forgive me."
2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
Matthew 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
(Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
2 kings 15:16 Then Menahem smote Tiphsah, and all that were therein, and the coasts thereof from Tirzah: because they opened not to him, therefore he smote it; and all the women therein that were with child he ripped up.
1 Samuel 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.