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Originally posted by Durden
The US recently went to war despite a lack of credible evidence supporting this attack, despite the opinion of the weapons inspectors and despite the opinion of the UN. The two candidates have very different views on this war. So I would say this worldwide interest of the current election is very logical as it does concern the rest of the world.
Originally posted by specialasianX
...but i feel the USA could do with a little better international image than it currently has...
Originally posted by specialasianX
And caring what the world thinks is important, beacuse the next time bush goes to war he will need allies... and if the people of the countries dont like him, the odds are he's not going to get much support.
Originally posted by American Mad Man
Originally posted by specialasianX
...but i feel the USA could do with a little better international image than it currently has...
Well, clearly it would be nice if all of our governments felt that the other was great and all of our people liked them as well. But in the real world that isn't going to happen.
I mean, if you ask a lot of Americns, they would change a lot of other nations governments as well.
Originally posted by specialasianX
I live outside the US and people feel less safe with Bush around. Not just because he might invade, but because he's stirring a hornets nest in the wrong way... instead of smoking the hornets out thus making them less dangerous, he's jabbing a stick in the hornets nest sending them into a frenzy... and then he attacks a bee hive and tells the world its a hornets nest... and even after the evidence shows its a bee hive, he still insists their hornets...
Originally posted by specialasianX
And caring what the world thinks is important, beacuse the next time bush goes to war he will need allies... and if the people of the countries dont like him, the odds are he's not going to get much support.
Originally posted by specialasianX
As for 'socialist' healt programs... i'm assuming you mean universal healthcare and subsidised medication... I fail to see how anyone with even a fraction of a heart can be against everyone having basic health care... to let people be sick because they cant afford help is just encouraging the poverty cycle... but i guess the poor and needy in your country should just be forgotten about... coz i mean, if you leave them sick, then they'll die one day and you wont have to worry anymore.
Originally posted by Muaddib
So Saddam had no links with Al Qaeda, there were no terrorist camps in Iraq training these bastards to learn how to highjack passenger aircraft, among other things and Iraq did not have banned rockets, and parts which he used in the past with wmd?
Originally posted by Pisky
That is probably the best description of Dubya's action that I have ever read.
Thanks for that, SA - hopefully your words will make others think about what will happen if GWB gets back in power in November.
Originally posted by Muaddib
So Saddam had no links with Al Qaeda,
there were no terrorist camps in Iraq training these bastards to learn how to highjack passenger aircraft,
among other things and Iraq did not have banned rockets, and parts which he used in the past with wmd?
Can I ask why is it that the world does not speak against the war the Russians have been waging against the Chechen rebels, for far longer than any US war, which they call "terrorists".... (and i agree partly with this because of the actions of at least some of these rebels) still the Russians have committed attrocities against Chechen civilians and tells the world to stay away from this conflict...
Russia is supposedly defending itself against Chechen terrorists, the US was attacked by Al Qaeda, we went to attack those terrorists under a UN accepted resolution, even if it later wasn't liked very much. The President said we would go not only after terrorists but after those nations that were supporting and aiding terrorists, Afgahnistan and Iraq are two of those nations....
As for the wmd, the debate is still on...there was more than sufficient proof that Saddam still had and was trying to acquire wmd....why in the world would his people have tons of information and banned materials that were part of wmd programs. Why in the heck would he hide from UNSCOM and UNMOVIC that he destroyed all his wmd? what did he have to gain by hiding this and making the world think there were unnacounted for wmd as the 1999 UNSCOM report says?.....
Originally posted by Durden
What I find frustrating is this antagonistic and paranoid attitude, shown by some of the US members here, towards the rest of the world.
At least to my knowledge, this is not about a general illwill against the US. This is not the reason why most of the non-US citizens would rather see a change in US leadership.
Originally posted by twitchy
Originally posted by Muaddib
So Saddam had no links with Al Qaeda,
Right.
No al Qaeda, Iraq cooperation
The panel said it found "no credible evidence that Iraq and al Qaeda cooperated on attacks against the United States."
The Bush administration has said the terrorist network and Iraq were linked.
Salman Pak - Iraq's Own Terrorist Training Camp
Two Iraqi Military defectors, an unnamed former Lt. General and a Captain Sabah Khodada recently gave details of an Iraqi school at Salman Pak which includes training for the hijacking of passenger airliners and other modes of transportation. The former Iraqi General said that there was a old Boeing 707 resting next to rail tracks on edge of Salman Pak being used in terrorist training, the existence of this aircraft has been confirmed by UN. Inspectors.
The General, who had been the Security Officer in charge of the camp also reported that there were mixed nationality units including Saudi�s, Egyptians and Chechens at Salman Pak. Usually about 40 strong, these terrorist units received upto five months of intensive training. However the terrorist units were actually under the control of Iraq�s Al- Mukhabarat Intelligence Service and in particular a section called the Division of Special Operations. Much of this was also confirmed by Captain Khodada.
Originally posted by specialasianX
Basically coz they know everyone else has just about had enough of the current administration. But there are some very very extremly conservative people on this site, who get really defensive when anyone attacks their opinion or their president...
In fact i think Edsinger might be paid by the republicans, coz half the political posts on the board is him attacking Kerry (no offense edsinger, just noticed that then)
I'm not really pro kerry either, but seeing as he has the best chance of beating bush, i'm backing him in a grudging sorta way
Originally posted by Muaddib
If this is true special, then you too are either been paid off by communists, or socialists, or liberals...since all your posts are only at bashing the US and the administration...