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Regardless I think the state can be made to serve everyone if people are knowledgeable and constructive. A public central bank would immediately remove the parasites from government and then all campaign donations should be banned in favor of a vote tax. Once that is established then we can nationalise whatever else is deemed necessary.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
But but but you say, the Soviet Union wasn't really communism or socialism after all, oh no it was really fascism.....never realizing that fascism is cut from the same cloth as communism and socialism and is but a variant. Totalitarianism is the constant characterization of all these different methods of centralized control.]
Nazi Führer Adolf Hitler had objected to the party's previous leader's decision to use the word "Socialist" in its name as Hitler at the time instead preferred to use "Social Revolutionary". Upon taking over the leadership, Hitler kept the term but defined "socialism" as meaning a commitment of an individual to a community. Hitler claimed that "true" socialism does not repudiate private property unlike the claims of Marxism, and claimed that the "Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning" and said that "Communism is not socialism. Marxism is not socialism."
When the world's two great propaganda systems agree on some doctrine, it requires some intellectual effort to escape its shackles. One such doctrine is that the society created by Lenin and Trotsky and molded further by Stalin and his successors has some relation to socialism in some meaningful or historically accurate sense of this concept. In fact, if there is a relation, it is the relation of contradiction.
It is clear enough why both major propaganda systems insist upon this fantasy. Since its origins, the Soviet State has attempted to harness the energies of its own population and oppressed people elsewhere in the service of the men who took advantage of the popular ferment in Russia in 1917 to seize State power. One major ideological weapon employed to this end has been the claim that the State managers are leading their own society and the world towards the socialist ideal; an impossibility, as any socialist -- surely any serious Marxist -- should have understood at once (many did), and a lie of mammoth proportions as history has revealed since the earliest days of the Bolshevik regime. The taskmasters have attempted to gain legitimacy and support by exploiting the aura of socialist ideals and the respect that is rightly accorded them, to conceal their own ritual practice as they destroyed every vestige of socialism.
Originally posted by RELDDIR
Not only is Obama a Socialist.