So I have experienced a few rather strange things over the last two weeks, that has me asking questions as I am out of my knowledge base and experience level here. I am looking for any help or input with my problems.


Firstly.
Ive started to lose control of my Astral Projection. Everything goes as it always has except now as I am ascending I get stuck in a dark place full of shadow people, mists, and all sorts of unknown undescribable "figures"

They are all rather un-pleasant. They beckon at me and try to "overcome" me, but I am always able to remind myself I am essentialy in "control" of everything as my reality is merely a projection of my thoughts. So I can always stop them from "getting" me but I Havent been able to make them go away completely. I use a strong light to push them out of my consciousness and field of vision but I am always left with a small part of black left in the top right hand corner of my vision, and I cant shake the last little bit.

This is something I have never expereinced before, but I have only been projecting for the last 3 weeks now. (due to the most profound experience of my life which I posterd about in this forum just recently) I Do it every night I am very happy atm with life, and I cant put it to any recent "bad" experience. Very weird.



Secondly.
Ive realised only within the last few days that with concentration I can pull my consciousness "backwards" and feel and watch time/reality "unfold"

So as we understand our make-up we are energy, and everything is energy Vibrating to a sound. I can feel that sound and can rotate it faster and slower backwards and and forwards watching it on a tv screen "spiralling" away or toward myself. However I can only ever get it to a fraction of a second forward.

This is very hard to explain so I will do my best. I can see the "ping" of the sound and watch the vortex of reality spiral around. When I get stuck in it I can often be guilty of using my fingers to dictate the speed of the rotation.

Put your hand out in front of you and and move each finger around in a circle some clockwise and some anti clockwise. Thats what I find myself doing with both hands to control the speed. Strange? I think so too. My partner has told me that while this is going on I am very slow to respond and sometimes I cant even hear her talking to me.

Any thoughts? or any thoughts on how to extend the field of view so I could go further forward ?


Thirdly.

I Keep accidently pulling people out of their bodies and I don't know how I am doing it or why. Some people enjoy it, others don't. It is always by accident, and its uncontrolable. I can however consciously pull people out but if I do it consciously then they have to allow it.

I accidently pulled my housemate and her boyfriend out the other night and we where stuck out for a very long period of time and we could see our bodies and I was telling them to go back in, but they said they couldn't they where "lost" and they kept telling me they hated it and wanted me to stop it. Problem is I don't know how I am even doing it :/


I would appreciate any thoughts views or if anyone has experienced these sort of things before I would love to hear your experiences.

I can't help you because I don't have any experience with astral projection yet. I'm just lucid dreamer so I only have some experience with sleep paralysis and ofcourse lucid dreams. But dude you can always pull me out of my body, I would absolutely love that haha!

In addition to these enhanced experiences, are you experiencing anything else such as becoming completely aware of your surroundings, a shift from temporal thinking to spatial thinking, becoming aware of other people's perspectives and things of that nature? Also, transcending traditional values and thinking of things in terms of what is healthy for you and those around you?

That happened to me a few years ago, and it was very hard to master, I am still working on it.

I'm going to have a guess that you didn't balance yourself before attempting to open your third eye? Just opening it without giving some attention to your other chakras can from what I have heard cause some problems, especially fear. Perhaps this would be something to consider.

Your room mates might not be ready for you to just come along and yank them out. If what you are saying is true about your ability to do it, have you tried talking to your room mate about the experience in waking consciousness?

although i am very open minded, and listen to all perspectives and weigh them up, i find it very hard to believe that you can unintentionally make your house-mates leave their body. Are you sure you aren't experiencing some kind of seizures?

Simply put, Mother Earth is rising up to dimension 4. dimension 4 is the underworld so expect a lot more of the same my friend until reach 5D. Lookup da13thsun on youtube he can explain all of this.

I have started to take note of every little detail I can remember, Though I record myself talking about it, I am not very educated or eloquent in my writings it is much easier to communicate my thoughts through voice.


It's Funny how you metion choice. Last night As I reached a new awareness each time I consciouslly started applying the law of attraction. My mind was pouring images, feelings, events, and lifestyle changes into my vortex of reality. I am going to try and make an effort to do this every time, I'm very interested to watch it unfold.


I have so many questions, here is another. Have you ever felt as though you have the ability to not only simultaneously take in, but to consciously be aware of ,two different realities that are going on close by ?

A simple example would be this. Last night I was watching tv, and doing some work on my laptop, When I came to realize my body was below me. Sweet an OBE ! yet as I was watching myself type, my vision split and I consciously became aware of a soft music, I could not make out the words, I was only aware of the fact that I was watching tv and typing on my laptop in one reality, and in another very very very similar to my own. I was simply laying on the couch listening to music.


May I also ask what your comment relates to in regards to your research ?

In a philosophical context, and spiritually speaking...You can only take so much before you have to give something of equal or lesser value back. Are these abilities that your imagination is helping you perceive worth slowly going mad?

If power or visceral experience is your spiritual aim you are in for a long ride!

I had a similar problem.

As someone else said you basically opened your 3rd eye before you where ready.

Work on your other chakras, and draw more energy into your body through meditation and what not.

If you raise it enough you/they will no longer be able to perceive each-other.

Worked for me

You have your reality but so does everyone else, from that perspective we are all equally powerful. However, each interprets the others' power differently. You interpret reality according to what you have accepted as truths and untruths which can be visualized like a book on a pedestal in the center of your soul which only you can access. Everyone has such a book but we can never see eachothers book 'directly' it is only possible to guess what another holds as truth or untruth as we communicate with eachother. You can also view your truths and untruths as a library of books with topics and subjects and another room with all the undecided information. Just know you can only visit your own personal library otherwise you might end up in others' and then you will live according to their truths. Which I'm guessing is what would happen if you would allow yourself to go with those figures you mentioned which I would not recommend doing.

If you want to make it to this shared world you will have to abandon the idea you can move others. Only the individual can move itself because of one's own interpretation of the stimuli or phenomenon which creates their illusion of reality or experience.

Picture the astral as a 3d sphere, not a 2d piece of paper of high and low. In the center of the sphere is where you want to be, you will know it when you get there as you would not want to move any further. It might be you will choose to stay for awhile but move on later. The more you are away of this center, the darker it becomes. The more your book has in common with this book that is in the center (which doesn't belong to anyone), the origin in a way or like a neverending story or which describes the laws of the center the closer you will be. At some point your book will be finished and you can live there permanently for all of eternity and also leave whenever you want to assist those who are still writing their own book of truth.

No inhabitants in this shared world can move one another, they are all free and move according to their book of truth which happen to have common truths. It cannot be anyone there can enter a persons house against their will and force them out. This might be the case on earth where for example police might enter a house and take away the wanted person but is not so in the astral planes. Those in doubt of this or simply haven't accepted their truths (usually because of lack of understanding or misinterpration) end up in dark places.

Abandon the idea of factions and groups and consider yourself a faction of your own and rely on your own individual power. Don't interpret pulling others out of their bodies, it shouldn't be possible. They are doing this themselves because they are not doing their homework and you happen to observe the consequences. They simply want to get to know you and what you stand for better because it might benefit them themselves. As for your roommates, they are simply wrong to tell you to stop it. They should be studying and learn how to control themselves. I understand they might not like you if you accept this. Just tell them you can't pull them out of their bodies and if they don't want to believe this that is their choice.

It is normal you become slower as you are dealing with stimuli from 2 worlds where others only deal with stimuli from this world and the other world is like energy emanating from the books I mentioned interacting with eachother automatically. Once you choose to open your third eye you effectively choose to take control of this interaction which is good but a lot more difficult. It is the difference between doing things in full awareness or being half asleep.

I don't want to warn you and know that I'm not in a relationship like you but what you are doing might create problems if you do not do this together and talk about this, this should be practiced either solo or within a group who have the same goals, ideals or they have many truths and untruths in common.

May someone be kind enough to explain what on Earth Astral Projection is and....we have a third eye????

I think astral projection is much like, an hallucinogenic trip - with the right chemical.

These dark places, and unsavoury creatures are IN you. they are repressed feelings, things you pushed aside as to not deal with them. These things are beckoning you because they need to be dealt with in order to move on, or enlighten yourself.

There is a reason why you dont induce a mind altering trip when you are in a foul mood or have too much negativity going on.

I am not saying, GO OUT, DO DRUGS! Im just giving my two cents.