Did nasa really send astronauts to the moon?

reply to post by jra


I see, so the X-ray radiation produced by solar flares probably wasn`t intense enough to require any type of lead protection in their suits when they were walking on the moon.

Originally posted by Tardacus
I see, so the X-ray radiation produced by solar flares probably wasn`t intense enough to require any type of lead protection in their suits when they were walking on the moon.

There were no major solar particle events during any of the Apollo missions, so X-ray radiation wasn't a problem.

reply to post by jra


They had no way of knowing that there would be no major solar event`s, wouldn`t it have been necessary to be prepared for a major solar event instead of gambling that there wouldn`t be one, since solar event`s can`t be predicted?
i don`t know much about solar flare X-rays but i`m assuming that they aren`t very dangerous or NASA would have made preparations to protect the astronauts from them.

reply to post by thesneakiod

No, you complained that your highbrow Shakespeare conspiracy wasn't getting much coverage. Maybe it's because you have to be "specialised" in various subjects to fully comprehend it? Before you can even investigate it?

But let's face it, its not as mainstream or as potentially huge as the lunar hoax...

Still don't get what's wrong with a topic on the MLH, on a website that is largely conspiracy based?

Everything you learned in Freshman English was wrong. Care to debate it?

reply to post by Tardacus

Extreme x-ray flares can be dangerous but they are not difficult to protect against. Had one occurred during an EVA the astronauts would have retreated to the LM. Particle events are more dangerous but much less common.

While flares cannot really be predicted, the probabilities can (and could) be given. There were contingency plans for solar events.

www.hq.nasa.gov...

Human Body Weight ~ 180 pounds
Space Suit Weight ~ 180 pounds

HBW + SSW ~ 360 pounds

Moon Gravity ~ 1/6 Earth Gravity

360 * 1/6 = 60 pounds

Did any moon walker ever do something that could only be done by a person weighing 60 lbs?

reply to post by Semicollegiate

Did any moon walker ever do something that could only be done by a person weighing 60 lbs?

The correct question: did any Moon walker ever do something that could only be done by a person weighing 60 lbs and massing 360 lbs?

Yes. They walked on the Moon. What would you expect them to do?

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Semicollegiate

 

Did any moon walker ever do something that could only be done by a person weighing 60 lbs?

The correct question: did any Moon walker ever do something that could only be done by a person weighing 60 lbs and massing 360 lbs?

Yes. They walked on the Moon.

I take it you cannot walk or jump with a back pack on, or walk in water.

They weighted 60 lbs, or maybe only 40 lbs.

reply to post by Semicollegiate

I take it you cannot walk or jump with a back pack on, or walk in water.

Of course I can. Walking under water is kind of hard though.

reply to post by Phage


I heard that Ninja's do karate katas in the water, for the added resistance.

Being on the moon is hyper exciting and falling down would be like hitting your suit with 60lbs. That could do some damage.

But why use steps, that could snag your suit if you fell, when a rope would be safer, more natural, and alot lighter.

Most people want to use their hands when footing is unsure.

reply to post by Semicollegiate

But why use steps, that could snag your suit if you fell, when a rope would be safer, more natural, and alot lighter.

Why would you fall? You have two hands. Each one can easily support 60 pounds. Climbing a rope would seem to be more dangerous, swinging around.

You think the Moon landings were faked because the landers had ladders instead of ropes?]

reply to post by Phage



Do u think our 1st moon landing was a fake?

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Semicollegiate

 

But why use steps, that could snag your suit if you fell, when a rope would be safer, more natural, and alot lighter.

Why would you fall? You have two hands. Each one can easily support 60 pounds. Climbing a rope would seem to be more dangerous, swinging around.

You think the Moon landings were faked because the landers had ladders instead of ropes?]

edit on 9/3/2012 by Phage because: (no reason given)

I didn't see anything that made me think they weighed only 60 lbs. It looked like mimed water bouyancy.

The rope would be handier, especially to pull some whatever thing into the LEM.

Originally posted by Tardacus
They had no way of knowing that there would be no major solar event`s, wouldn`t it have been necessary to be prepared for a major solar event instead of gambling that there wouldn`t be one, since solar event`s can`t be predicted?

They can be predicted somewhat. Think of it like a weather forecast on Earth. They would watch the Sun's "weather" before the launch of a mission to see if their were signs that a solar flare might go off.

Solar flares are also directional, so if one did go off, the chances of it heading straight for the spacecraft are also small.

i don`t know much about solar flare X-rays but i`m assuming that they aren`t very dangerous or NASA would have made preparations to protect the astronauts from them.

NASA made preparations for all sorts of possible scenarios. Including the possibility of a major SPE. Take a look at what Phage posted.

reply to post by Semicollegiate

I didn't see anything that made me think they weighed only 60 lbs. It looked like mimed water bouyancy.

You think they were underwater? That's a big swimming pool with very clear water (never mind the way the dust moves).

The rope would be handier, especially to pull some whatever thing into the LEM.

They had a rope (sort of) to transfer stuff to and from the LM (no "E" necessary) but mostly they just carried stuff. Couldn't do that with a rope. www.hq.nasa.gov...

I must say your arguments are different. But they don't make much sense.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Semicollegiate

 

But why use steps, that could snag your suit if you fell, when a rope would be safer, more natural, and alot lighter.

Why would you fall? You have two hands. Each one can easily support 60 pounds. Climbing a rope would seem to be more dangerous, swinging around.

You think the Moon landings were faked because the landers had ladders instead of ropes?]

edit on 9/3/2012 by Phage because: (no reason given)

I may be wrong but I am under the impression that one of the original lander designs did use a rope but it proved way too impractical and a ladder system was devised instead.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Semicollegiate

 

I didn't see anything that made me think they weighed only 60 lbs. It looked like mimed water bouyancy.

You think they were underwater? That's a big swimming pool with very clear water (never mind the way the dust moves).

The rope would be handier, especially to pull some whatever thing into the LEM.

They used a rope (sort of) to transfer stuff. www.hq.nasa.gov...

I must say your arguments are different. But they don't make much sense.

I think you started from belief. I can't say I know whether we walked on the moon or not.

I've heard that the Lunar Lander propellant was supposed to leave a purple residue. To me that woud mean Iodine, or at least not strictly nitro hydro carbon. Do you know anything about the propellant?

I didn't see much of a crater where they landed

Why isn't the suface of the moon anealed into a solid glass like cystal? There is no corrosion from an atmosphere, wouldn't the adjecent grains of identical composition aneal over millions of years?

Isn't there alot of high speed dust in space? I said dust but actually it could be very small, like 1 million atoms and it could have a very high relative speed like 120.000 mph. I wonder how often those little grains impact on the lunar surface? or a lunar space craft?

Originally posted by exponent
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I may be wrong but I am under the impression that one of the original lander designs did use a rope but it proved way too impractical and a ladder system was devised instead.

Yes, swinging could be a problem as per Phage.

You could move onto the rope as slowly as you wanted to, kinda ooze out with both feet in the door way but your weight all on the rope.

I don't think they could see the steps or their feet for that matter.

reply to post by Semicollegiate

I've heard that the Lunar Lander propellant was supposed to leave a purple residue. To me that woud mean Iodine, or at least not strictly nitro hydro carbon. Do you know anything about the propellant?

Where did you hear that? No, no iodine. Not hydrocarbons either.

I didn't see much of a crater where they landed

Why would you expect to?

]Why isn't the suface of the moon anealed into a solid glass like cystal? There is no corrosion from an atmosphere, wouldn't the adjecent grains of identical composition aneal over millions of years?

Why?

Isn't there alot of high speed dust in space? I said dust but actually it could be very small, like 1 million atoms and it could have a very high relative speed like 120.000 mph. I wonder how often those little grains impact on the lunar surface? or a lunar space craft?

Probably not that fast but 1 million atoms doesn't carry much energy. You think that such things were not studied and accounted for?

Why don't you look for the answers yourself. There is a lot of readily available information. It doesn't sound like you've done much research, just come up with things that don't "seem right" to you.

Originally posted by Komodo
reply to post by SplitInfinity

 

But BOTH the SOVIET UNION and CHINA have confirmed to the World THAT THE U.S. LUNAR LANDINGS WERE REAL!

you got some ..

sources for that ??

There are Hundreds of Sites for sources as well as Wiki as well as Britanica. I even watched a History Channel TV Show that had interviews with 6 of the former Soviet Unions Greatest Cosmonauts as they had gotten together at the CCCP's Rocket Launch Facility the Baikonur Cosmodrome where they explained their emotions as well as excitement of watching Armstrong walk on the Moon. They also stated that they felt it was a shame that the Soviet Union as well as China were two nations out of the Whole World that were not allowing broadcast of this Historic Event. They watched as well as all the Communist Leadership and all those involved with the Soviet Unions own Lunar Program.

There are virtually THOUSANDS of sites and links that you can go to by simply googling Cosmonauts reaction to U.S. Manned Lunar Landing...or How close was the Soviet Union to getting to the Moon First? You can type in many variations and get a WEALTH of information. Split Infinity