reply to post by nixie_nox
You have offered a number of very real life valid points and I applaud you for your tenacity.
This is an issue often presented as strictly black or white, in reality though if one looks deeper than the surface of the debate ie; mother's right
to determine what happens to her body vs unborn's right to life, one can begin to see wide swaths of gray throughout the canvas, a bigger more
expansive picture of the many elements involved rather than the stark simplicity of the shallow black or white surface.
One element that plays a significant role in this issue is our society's continued acceptance of a double standard in relation to sex and
procreation. Women are vilified for not only having unplanned pregnancies, but frankly for having sex under any circumstance other than the sole
intent to procreate, note how many people respond in topics such as this with the standard "If she didn't want to get pregnant she should have kept
her legs together". For men on the other hand, getting laid is considered a rite of passage, males are applauded by their peers for the number of
sexual conquests they have had, how often do we hear society voicing disdainful outrage over the number of men hitting the clubs looking to find a one
night stand? We don't, but we do hear the disdainful outrage regarding any women who might take them up on it. And how many can actually say that
they have never heard the excuse of "she asked for it" (by the clothes she wore, the makeup she wore, her lack of response, her open friendliness or
any number of other quirks or characteristics ) as a defense for rape? So long as we as a society continue to accept this double standard the problems
associated with it will continue, which includes unplanned pregnancies.
No example of this double standard could be more perfect than comparing the ratio of sexual enhancement drugs such as Viagra promoted for men verses
those promoted for women, on the other side of the coin compare the ratio of birth control pills marketed for women verses those promoted for men.
Consider this in 1960 the first birth control pill for women was approved by the FDA, in the 52 years since the pill was first introduced for women
no similar form of birth control has been designed for men, partially due according to some sources to lack of demand. WHY?
I personally stand as pro-choice, that is not to say I believe abortion should be considered an alternate form of birth control, nor does it say that
I myself would ever consider having an abortion for myself unless the situation were extremely dire. It is to say I do recognize that there are times
when the life of the mother must take precedence over the potential for life of the developing fetus. Not all unplanned pregnancies are the result of
a willful act on the mothers part, some are forced upon them against their will.
Now for some interesting statistics I dug up while researching this issue
Often the suggested alternative to abortion for those not wanting the child is putting the child up for adoption, claims are made that there is an
over-abundance of people seeking to adopt.
In 2008 there were 4247694 births and approximately 12100000 abortions.
The total adoptions for 2008 were 135,813 and the total number of children waiting to be adopted was 125,668 although the National adoption day
toolkit for 2008 states 129000
The statistics raise doubts about the number of children that would be saved by banning abortion chances of being adopted.
While the pro-life advocates are generally considered Christian or religious based and the pro-choice advocates are viewed generally as lacking
religious values...this might surprise people.
In 2008 the number of abortions broke down as such
447700 identify as protestant (those who only identified as Christian 8% are included here)
338800 identify as catholic
326700 claim no religious affiliation
242000 identified themselves as born-again, evangelical, charismatic or fundamentalist