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Casino sues gamblers who won $1.5m after unshuffled cards landed 41 winning hands in a row.

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posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 12:24 PM
The Golden Nugget Casino in Atlantic City, NJ is suing gamblers and the manufacturer of the unshuffled cards after a group of gamblers won 41 times in a row in mini baccarat. Casino security came to the table convinced that cheating was going on, but could not find anyone cheating. The players kept upping their bets ( and were allowed to do so) until they won 1.5 million dollars.

I can't see how the casino can sue the gamblers. They could have stopped the game when they realized something was not right, but instead let it go on. Now they are suing the gamblers and the manufacturer, and refusing to make payouts to the other gamblers. The casino claims the mistake with the unshuffled cards renders the game invalid.

A casino is suing a group of gamblers who won $1.5million in a game of mini-baccarat after a deck of unshuffled cards landed 41 winning hands in a row.
The Golden Nugget Atlantic City is refusing to pay the players their winnings even though they broke no rules.
It claims the game was illegal because the cards were unshuffled, despite a promise from their manufacturer that they would be pre-shuffled and ready to use.

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The treatment this man received is unbelievable.

NY Daily News

Brooklyn man Hua Shi suing Golden Nugget after Atlantic City casino accused him of cheating and seized his winnings.

Hua Shi, one of three players suing the Golden Nugget for their chunk of $1.5 million in winnings, claims he was held hostage for eight hours by casino workers convinced his huge haul was a huge scam.

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Shi said he has suffered from insomnia and needed medical treatment since four thuggish casino employees woke him with a late-night May 1 knock on the door — and pinned him against the wall of his hotel room.

He was then hustled to a room inside the Golden Nugget and “confined against his will for more than eight hours by himself, without any . . . food, drink or interpreter,” he charged.
The 33-page court filing said Shi was threatened, pushed and roughly searched by the casino tough guys

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posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 12:35 PM
reply to post by virraszto

Feels good knowing the Casino's got the short end of the stick. I have lost my fair share, but not at black jack. I have an impatient personality and go all in before the flop in texas hold em, lol.

posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 12:38 PM
And how much money has been taken from gamblers by casinos?

So someone can lose their shirt, and that is ok. But a casino starts losing money and there is security and lawsuits.
edit on 23-8-2012 by nixie_nox because: (no reason given)

posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 12:40 PM
I hope this story causes all to not gamble in the Golden Nugget ever again.

I bet they'd wish they would have paid out then after going out of business.

posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 12:45 PM
So knowing something wasn't right they didn't decide to cut their loses and then complain, for some reason i can only think of someone was asleep when they were playing so the staff carried on since they couldn't raise the person in charge

but its a long know adage that a fool and its money are soon parted so we know which party is a fool in this situation

posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 12:46 PM
Casino gambling rules are right there in plain sight. You are welcome to stay as long as you like as long as you are losing. If and when you begin to win, no matter the reason, you will be asked to leave. It is very clear, you'll also note the rules, state very clearly your "odds" of winning are slim to none, the house controls all the materials, the location, the rules and anything associated with the process of "gambling." It is very clear the house has legal recourse, including access to security and the law, the player has no such access at all.

It is remarkable to me anyone does this at all. The casino was started by the mob, hardly a reputable company, so why anyone would feel they are not getting ripped off is beyond me. All those lights are on for a reason, all that glam is there for a reason, all those marble bathrooms are there for a reason: LOSERS!

posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 12:47 PM
What do you people think, that casinos are like churches?
Nay. They are part of the mob, about like your government.
"Badges? We don't need no stinkin' badges."

posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 12:47 PM
You can sue anybody for anything these days.

A person who robs your home falls and breaks his leg because of a lose floor tile can sue the owner. Its stupid and i put this casino incident on the same level.

However the old addage,

The House always wins

May be true

posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 12:49 PM

Originally posted by nixie_nox
And how much money has been taken from gamblers by casinos?

So someone can lose their shirt, and that is ok. But a casino starts losing money and there is security and lawsuits.
edit on 23-8-2012 by nixie_nox because: (no reason given)

Security, lawsuits and getting roughed up by casino employees.

posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 12:50 PM
Even if the cards were unshuffled, that falls on the shoulders of the casino, not the gamblers.

This casino needs to be sued for how they handled the case, and I hope they end up paying out much more than the 1.5 million those gamblers rightly deserve.

You can't just walk into a hotel room and pin someone against a wall and detain them for 8 hours without food or drink,with no one they can communicate to in their language.

They need to be charged criminally as well.

edit on 23-8-2012 by WhisperingWinds because: (no reason given)

posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 01:02 PM
I've never seen a casino pop a fresh deck of cards into a shoe without spreading them out on the table first to check the cards. To assume the manufacturer is doing their job by pre-shuffling the cards without a check and balance is insane.

To let them play 41 winning hands in a row is negligent. They could have stopped the game at any time for any reason.

Instead, the casino staff took a bet that they could let it go on and eventually land these guys in jail for cheating.

Well, they lost their bet, now they should pay up.

posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 01:04 PM
To the Casino. Call the WAAAAAaa-mbulance!

To the winners who were smarter than the Casino. YOU ROCK!

posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 01:11 PM
Even though the odds of this happening are 1 in 10^68, what if the cards get shuffled back into order? Can the casino still sue you then?
edit on 23-8-2012 by Junkheap because: "Happening" has no "d" in it! I'm an idiot!

posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 01:26 PM
As a former gambler, I can tell you that those who have already been paid will get to keep their money, and those who have not been paid will not get their money because any malfunction voids all winnings. It says this on the slot machines in fine print, and the auto-shufflers used at table games fall under the same rules as slots because they are operated by random number generators like slots.

posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 01:42 PM
So what's the solution for the casinos? Have the gamblers shuffle their own cards?

posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 02:39 PM
I read about this a few days ago, the casino should be pay the gamblers and sue the card company that provided them with unshuffled cards. It isn't the gamblers fault that they won, that would fall on the casino their dealer and the cards they purchased.

posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 02:58 PM
reply to post by OptimusSubprime

They didn't use auto-shufflers in this scenario. They bought pre-shuffled cards from the vendor and assumed they came pre-shuffled (dumb.. why would anyone trust that this would happen 100% of the time). They probably stuck 8 decks in a shoe and they were all not shuffled.

The only malfunctions involved here were the processes and procedures of the casino and the failure of the card manufacturer to deliver product as promised. They really shouldn't even be able to sue the card manufacturer... mistakes happen in production... that's why you have checks and balances.

posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 08:24 AM
In the long run, this seems like this was all the casino's fault.

Maybe they should sue themselves.

edit on 24-8-2012 by Junkheap because: (no reason given)

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