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Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by moderateAmerican
I'm Canadian and we sell lots of oil to China, and we plan on selling them more due to Obama cancelling the Keystone Pipeline. There are rumors of building a pipeline to China. Canada doesn't care, we will just sell to the highest bidder. Once we get Harper out of office we hopefully will get a leader who doesn't bow down to American foreign policy.
The USA has tons of oil, they invaded Iraq, are buddies with the Saudis, and as a last resort they can always invade Venezuela (just joking that will never happen, at least I hope not).
Originally posted by Kram09
I don't agree with these sanctions and I feel the United States's actions are merely a form of bullying.
- Sanctions to try and cripple Iran's economy
- Repeated threats of military action
- Cyber warfare attacks upon the Iranian nuclear plant.
- Suspicious assassinations of scientists working upon the Iranian nuclear program, with hints that the United States and Israel are responsible.
Iran hasn't broken any international laws and are well within their rights to develop nuclear power. There is no evidence to suggest they are developing nuclear weapons.
Israel however has a substantial number of nuclear weapons and is not a signatory to the Non-Proliferation treaty and has repeatedly echoed the threats of military action. Hypocrisy, arrogance and bullying of the highest order.
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by DarknStormy
If they simply stop doing what they want and listen to the international community, it would be finished quite quickly.
Iran's government has been trying to do things their way. I've no problem with international actions to stop that short of war.
Don't you think if we wanted a war we would have invaded in, oh, the last decade or something? This is literally been a longer "acts of provocation" than any other nation in our history to my knowledge.
Oh yes I believed we "wanted war"...in 2004. Then 2005 came, and still no war...and 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011....I think it's pretty clear we don't want to invade Iran by this point. And if you think we do, then why the f*ck have we waited 10 years for them to decay into a collapsing nonfunctional state?
In case you don't know, you can't invade a failed state, because there is nothing to invade. Invading a failed state is like going to a party and saying its yours. Everybody is too busy doing their own thing. You think they'll listen to you? Try opening an oil rig in a failed state. See how long it lasts.edit on 2-8-2012 by Gorman91 because: (no reason given)
past 10 years. So to me, the USA has been building for a conflict with the Iranians for a very long time along with the Israelis.
What makes you think the country of Iran is a failing state? Do you actually believe that sanctioning them is going to send them into the dark ages or something? They don't deal with yous to start with. They booted your asses out in 1979 and I think your country has never got over it.
But the report also stated that "we have found no evidence that Iran or Hezbollah was aware of the planning for what later became the 9/11 attack." In October, 2011, Maas determined that al Qaeda should face $9.3 billion in penalties for the businesses and properties destroyed and damaged in the 2001 attacks.
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by purplemer
Cool, let them rot. That's not a deceleration of war however.
Let me tell you a little secret. In war, civilians don't matter. So there's no reason why their suffering is a deceleration of war.
Once again, the case of Chinese pollution. I don't see other nations declaring war because of the aerial embargo of the sun...edit on 2-8-2012 by Gorman91 because: (no reason given)
And the Nazis did not go to war with everyone. They actually went to war with those they felt had wronged them. If you took Hitler's deceleration of war and translated it into Persian, you'd more or less have the same speeches Iran's president has said.
As to what happened to them....well, let me first say I hate what the Nazis did to minorities....but it took hundreds of millions of people, tens of millions of soldiers, the combined efforts of literally ALL the super powers on Earth, and untold billions of military spending....all to kill 5 million soldiers and a meth head for a leader.
you'd more or less have the same speeches Iran's president has said.