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Originally posted by Jazzerman
Thanks for the heads up...I have actually handled the original MJ-12 documents so I hope they come up with some new information on them. Many of the other archivists that I knew were split over if the documents were real or not...half said they thought they were authentic, and half said they were not. Should be an interesting show nonetheless!!!
Originally posted by Valhall
curme? They DID. I watched as well, and they spent quite a few minutes on that.
Originally posted by XPhiles
Originally posted by Jazzerman
Thanks for the heads up...I have actually handled the original MJ-12 documents so I hope they come up with some new information on them. Many of the other archivists that I knew were split over if the documents were real or not...half said they thought they were authentic, and half said they were not. Should be an interesting show nonetheless!!!
How in the world could you of handled the original MJ-12 documents when Stanton Friedman himself hasn't ? lol
Originally posted by Jazzerman
Originally posted by XPhiles
Originally posted by Jazzerman
Thanks for the heads up...I have actually handled the original MJ-12 documents so I hope they come up with some new information on them. Many of the other archivists that I knew were split over if the documents were real or not...half said they thought they were authentic, and half said they were not. Should be an interesting show nonetheless!!!
How in the world could you of handled the original MJ-12 documents when Stanton Friedman himself hasn't ? lol
Good question. When I worked (interned more like it) for the Eisenhower Presidential Library I simply went up to the Archivists and asked to see the documents. They brought out 4-5 indexed boxes for me to look through and told me to wear the appropriated acid-free cotton gloves when handling the documents. When I got to the MJ-12 documents I asked a couple of them to come over (they were friends) and explain what they thought about them. From what they told me, they were the original documents printed with the old style purple ink on a sort of almost transparent (or at least very thin) paper. We discussed them for quite awhile, and then I looked over hundreds of other documents they had pertaining to anything "UFO" related...literally hundreds!
Anyhow...I said they were the "original" documents because that is what the Archivists told me during my time there. I would suggest going there (my home town) and ask to see the documents for yourself. From what I understand, unless you request the real documents, all they will give you are photocopies of the originals, which is exactly what they gave a couple of my friends that have visited there as well.
Of course many of the "other" documents I looked over were covered in black ink and completely illegible to both the Archivists and myself! Hope this answer helps...????
Originally posted by Jazzerman
Good question. When I worked (interned more like it) for the Eisenhower Presidential Library I simply went up to the Archivists and asked to see the documents. They brought out 4-5 indexed boxes for me to look through and told me to wear the appropriated acid-free cotton gloves when handling the documents. When I got to the MJ-12 documents I asked a couple of them to come over (they were friends) and explain what they thought about them. From what they told me, they were the original documents printed with the old style purple ink on a sort of almost transparent (or at least very thin) paper. We discussed them for quite awhile, and then I looked over hundreds of other documents they had pertaining to anything "UFO" related...literally hundreds!
Anyhow...I said they were the "original" documents because that is what the Archivists told me during my time there. I would suggest going there (my home town) and ask to see the documents for yourself. From what I understand, unless you request the real documents, all they will give you are photocopies of the originals, which is exactly what they gave a couple of my friends that have visited there as well.
Of course many of the "other" documents I looked over were covered in black ink and completely illegible to both the Archivists and myself! Hope this answer helps...????
What I do suggest is just going to the Library yourself someday and asking for the documents, and asking if they do have the Originals? I remember seeing many de-classified documents, many of which were originals, and some that were copies.
I would say that most of you are correct...that it was not the "original" documents that I saw, especially if someone like Stanton Friedman has not seen them.
Originally posted by kyateLaBoca
But once again you do realize, if what you say is true, that would be like the government literally confirming the existence of mj 12 and E.T. Those documents were supposed to be "faked" according to skeptics and there not even supposed to exist, especially in the national archives. So for those documents to be in the national archives is a big leap of confirmation. You sure those were the MJ 12 documents you saw? lol
[edit on 11-10-2004 by kyateLaBoca]
Originally posted by Jazzerman
Originally posted by kyateLaBoca
But once again you do realize, if what you say is true, that would be like the government literally confirming the existence of mj 12 and E.T. Those documents were supposed to be "faked" according to skeptics and there not even supposed to exist, especially in the national archives. So for those documents to be in the national archives is a big leap of confirmation. You sure those were the MJ 12 documents you saw? lol
[edit on 11-10-2004 by kyateLaBoca]
I agree, it probably was, like I stated before just photocopies, but my memory does not serve me correctly right now. After seeing so many documents maybe I am just mixing up which ones were copies and which ones were real.
Sorry to get everyone so worked up, as I did not intend to do that.
I suggest going there and asking for all de-classified documents on the UFO topic or something and seeing what they give you. Its better that way so that you can see for yourself...either that...or just give them a call on the phone?
Originally posted by Jazzerman
kyate or anyone...I have one question for you as well. Where is everyone else getting their copies of MJ-12 from? The only source I have ever known of where to find the documents is the Eisenhower Presidential Library. Are there other places you can find these documents as well? I guess I thought everyone knew they were stored at said Presidential Library.
[edit on 11-10-2004 by Jazzerman]