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SOURCEFirst and foremost I don't care about the source. I don't care if it falls on the left or right of the political spectrum. It's the commentary that I'm interested in, as it is perfect disinformation for simpletons who can't drive let alone critically think. When we think of taxes the income tax is the first and most predominant example we think of. By the size and visibility (annotated on your weekly pay stub) people are aware of it, therefore complain about it. What is missed are all of the other hidden taxes and fees that people are subjected to, seemingly unaware of how much of their income is stolen from them. Lets look at just a few that people seem to miss in the discussion of excessive taxes and wealth theft.Building Permit TaxCDL License Tax Cigarette TaxCounty Property TaxExcise Taxes (Heavy hitters love this one) Fishing License Tax Garbage Tax Gasoline TaxHunting License TaxLiquid Natural Gas TaxLiquid Petroleum Gas TaxLiquor TaxLodging Taxes Marriage License Tax Medicare TaxSales Tax (State)Sales Tax (City)Sewer & Water TaxSocial Security TaxState Income TaxTelephone Federal Excise TaxToll Road TaxesTraffic Fines (Indirect Taxation)Trailer Registration TaxUtility TaxesVehicle Registration TaxVehicle Sales TaxWatercraft Registration TaxWell Permit TaxWorkers Compensation Tax These are just a few, but the most noticeable taxes that affect the majority of us. The argument of excessive taxation is not based off of the Fed Income Tax by itself. The argument should be that the income tax is the largest part of a whole that has stolen the little wealth that the middle and lower classes have.Think about this. The article states that the average percentage of income taxation was 17.4. I think it's reasonable to assume those numbers to be about the same today. Now think about all of the other methods of taxation you are subjected to. How much of your income goes to taxation? 30 percent? 35 percent? Now take a $30,000 dollar a year job and subtract 30 percent. We start to see why approx 159 million Americans live at or near poverty levels. I think that would be a good project/documentary. If somebody would document and calculate how much of their income is lost due to taxation and hidden fees I think the numbers would raise a few eyebrows. What's actually funny is that I never even got into whether I consider the U.S. Government a good bargain or not. Any representative form of government that sends billions and billions of aid to other countries and entities while the ones they represent remain homeless and hungry is not a good bargain, no matter how much the citizens pay out of their pockets.
Over the last few years, in fact, taxpayers have been getting the best deal in modern times, in terms of what they get from the government, and what they pay for it. Critics of government tend to focus on swelling regulatory bureaucracies or wayward projects like the loans that went to bankrupt energy company Solyndra, but the vast majority of federal spending goes toward defense or subsidies for the elderly, poor, or disabled. Even if taxpayers who fund those programs don't benefit directly from them, somebody in their family probably does.
And?Taxation is taxation. I don't care where it's derived from, they're all smaller parts of a whole. I understand that the article was based off of the income tax and federal government. Hence my argument that people get so worked up over the income tax that they miss all the other forms of taxation that affect their lives.I don't think you even read the post. You just looked at the list of taxes and found an opportunity to make a snide underhanded comment.
Originally posted by nixie_nox
A lot of those taxes are local, not federal.
Thank you for understanding the premise of my post.Once again, take employment with an annual salary of $30,000, Now subtract 30 percent (and that's being generous) because of various forms of taxation. I think this is a big part of why such a large part of the population lives at or near the poverty level. It's an aspect of money that doesn't get looked at enough.. The premise of the post was not to question the validity of one tax over another. It was to point out a culmination of many parts that create a whole.What if government told you they would do away with all these forms of taxation but they were going to do it at a flat rate of 40 percent. A lot of people would be upset, and rightfully so. But they don't do it like that, they do it in bits a pieces here and there so people never realize how much wealth gets stolen from them. Who has ever sat there and documented how much money they earned went to every form of taxation for the whole year? Nobody really has time for that so it goes unnoticed.
Originally posted by phishfriar47
reply to post by nixie_nox
Also, I dont think the OP really specified that it was a Federal thing, I assumed they were just fed up with taxes in general like the rest of us. We are probably being taxed at near 50% if I had to take a guess. I know my check is short about 22.5% of what i make each and every week, and thats just off my paycheck personally. Im already halfway to the 50% mark, and I dont even make that much money per year