New Ebola Outbreak...14 Confirmed Dead...Possible Red Alert

The mean incubation period, best calculated currently for EVD outbreaks due to EBOV infection, is 12.7 days (standard deviation = 4.3 days), but can be as long as 25 days (wiki)

The Olympics end August 17th, I think. So just pretend ONE player/fan is infected and started infecting others starting.. 7/28 how many people could possibly be infected by the end?

It would be scary to start hearing reports of sick fans or athletes

C'mon guys... Uganda is a nation, not a town. Is there any suggestion any Olympic Athletes or their handlers were anywhere near this countryside village? And then...were in it and in physical contact with infected people? So many things would have to go precisely wrong for it to happen and then, for it to spread that way. If it didn't kill you it would be the day to get a Lottery ticket. Luck would sure be running to the max in one direction or the other.

I've got a guy in my class at school, just ended a few days ago, from Uganda. Nice guy. Very warm personality. Should I start checking too? Could be a relative visited him or something..I mean it gets kinda crazy doesn't it?

Besides.. the time for an Olympic Bio attack would never be opening ceremonies, it's closing. You'd want all those international vectors to have the max amount of time to travel home and then outward in almost every country in the world.

It's almost enough to scare myself if I thought it was anywhere near that easy in reality.

* I don't mean to be the party pooper.... It just strikes me that Ebola or any Hemorrhagic Fevers is a heck of a thing for someone to think is actually spreading in the wild and into the larger world. Downright terrifying if it actually happens in our lifetimes.

Ebola is not a big worry as it kills its hosts so fast they hardly get a chance to spread contageon.
Direct contact is about the only way you can get it i believe....going to Uganda maybe?
I doubt itll come over here...but now ive said it who knows.........

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So i post mine in the right forum but it gets closed..... very weird indeed.

Lets hope this latest outbreak doesnt get out of Uganda because this is a killer.... no cure!!

So far killed 14 with another 6 infected but where were these infected?
Where have they been?
Who have they seen? etc...

I've seen the Film with Hoffman.... its not a nice way to die.... all i can say is I hope its kept under control!!

some of the story:

The deadly Ebola virus has killed 14 people in western Uganda this month, health officials have confirmed.

The announcement ends weeks of speculation about the cause of a strange disease that had many people fleeing their homes - officials had previously dismissed the suggestion of Ebola as "merely a rumour".

The officials and a World Health Organisation representative confirmed the report at a news conference in the country's capital, Kampala.

"Laboratory investigations done at the Uganda Virus Research Institute...have confirmed that the strange disease reported in Kibaale is indeed Ebola hemorrhagic fever," the two groups said in a joint statement.

news.sky.com...

Originally posted by stirling
Ebola is not a big worry as it kills its hosts so fast they hardly get a chance to spread contageon.
Direct contact is about the only way you can get it i believe....going to Uganda maybe?
I doubt itll come over here...but now ive said it who knows.........

I have to agree with you. Symptoms begin anywhere between 2 & 21 days after infection, with an average of 5 days. So it's unlikely that anyone in London, at least, is infected. And, yes it is not spread by aerosol - direct contact with fluids etc. is the only way of transmission.

Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
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Lets hope this latest outbreak doesnt get out of Uganda because this is a killer.... no cure!!

Ebola only thrives in 3rd world situations. Cleanliness, use of gloves, disposable needles, etc. precludes the spread of it in 1st world nations.

I was reading a news article that mentioned that 2k body bags were being shipped to Uganda/the area where this happened. Is sending that many out the normal precaution? Kinda seems like overkill because the largest ever outbreak only had 400-soemthign cases, roughly half of which died. *takes a deep breath* They are usually able to contain this, given the nature of Ebola (as it kills it's victims quickly).

As for the airborne question, as of right now Ebola Sudan and all the other strains are not airborne, only via fluids, etc. Now Ebola Reston is airborne-but it only infects simians. What a twist of fate that it mutated to become airborne but also mutated such that humans couldn't catch it?

Here is something encouraging though! From what I've read, it seems to me that there is a MASSIVE response sent to Uganda to try and control/slowdown/quarantine the spread. Ebola is not a segmented virus, so it is MUCH less likely to mutate-also another good thing, for our sakes.

I've also read how recently there has been some research done and progress made with treatments, like anti-viral cocktails and something that involved the RNA of the virus. I'll have to look those up and re-post them here, perhaps.

Keep your chin up, ATS! Let's keep collecting information and sharing it so we can be up to date on what is going on!

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Yes indeed. I agree with your statement here. I personally think (hope, too) that it's easier to slow down/contain than say, SARS or H5N1 due to it not being airborne. But that's just me. Those aid/health workers that are there right now are the true image of courage. Can you imagine doing their job? I certainly can't. Go them!

Originally posted by CitizenJack
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You beat me to it.... That book was awesome/scary. It was very informative and well written based on actual events from the perspective of those that were there. For those who have read it news likes this makes me go "Uh Oooo" am i right....?

You walk away educated and in awe of the mysterious nature of viruses.

That's for sure! It was a very well written book. I used the information in it to write a paper for one of my college classes. Mr. Preston also wrote a book about smallpox. "The Demon In the Freezer" I think is the name. It is equally as good.

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Any links to back-up that 2000 body bag claim?

Originally posted by Signals
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Interesting, no I haven't en.wikipedia.org... but would like to now....

You should read it. For the type of material it concerns, it is a very entertaining(for want of a better term) read. I could hardly put it down. It was probably one of the scariest books I've ever read.

According to the latest news update, the deceased didn't exhibit symptoms normally until wayyy too late... Again, could this mean something about this strain?

Ugandan authorities did not initially detect an Ebola outbreak because patients weren't showing typical symptoms of the lethal virus, the nation's health minister told CNN Sunday.

Patients had fevers and were vomiting, but did not show other typical symptoms like hemorrhaging, Health Minister Dr. Christine Ondoa said.

A team from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention was on the way to Uganda to provide laboratory support to officials dealing with the virus, which health authorities say has left at least 14 people dead in the east African nation this month.

link

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Here it is: Ebola Outbreak in Uganda Kills 14

I swear there was another, I'll look for it.

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Well here is what Wikipedia says about this:

Sudan ebolavirus (SEBOV) Like the Zaire virus, SEBOV emerged in 1976; it was at first assumed to be identical with the Zaire species.[6] SEBOV is believed to have broken out first amongst cotton factory workers in Nzara, Sudan, with the first case reported as a worker exposed to a potential natural reservoir. Scientists tested local animals and insects in response to this; however, none tested positive for the virus. The carrier is still unknown. The lack of barrier nursing (or "bedside isolation") facilitated the spread of the disease. The most recent outbreak occurred in May, 2004. 20 confirmed cases were reported in Yambio County, Sudan, with five deaths resulting. The average fatality rates for SEBOV were 54% in 1976, 68% in 1979, and 53% in 2000 and 2001.

LINK-Ebola Sudan

This comes from the WHO website:

WHO does not recommend that any travel or trade restrictions are applied to Uganda.

Can't be that out of hand (Yet, and hopefully not at all!) if they are suggesting this.

[WHO] Ebola in Uganda

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Ill make sure to look that up thank you.

Since its been a few years since I read it I wasnt sure about something concerning the marhburg virus (i think its spelled that way). Didnt they draw the conclusion that it had become airborn, by the way it jumped rooms??? Ill try to find my old copy which I believe is floating around at my mothers house. But your response would be quicker lol.

I wanted to post that here but didnt want to be ripped to shreds for having my facts wrong and being still relativly new be labeled a doom porn troll

Originally posted by CitizenJack
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Ill make sure to look that up thank you.

Since its been a few years since I read it I wasnt sure about something concerning the marhburg virus (i think its spelled that way). Didnt they draw the conclusion that it had become airborn, by the way it jumped rooms??? Ill try to find my old copy which I believe is floating around at my mothers house. But your response would be quicker lol.

I wanted to post that here but didnt want to be ripped to shreds for having my facts wrong and being still relativly new be labeled a doom porn troll

It's been a while since I read the book, but I think it was Ebola Reston that was determined to have gone airborne. It only affects monkeys thankfully.

I dont trust the water and believe that many drink bottled water that is dirty, we don't know what is in it really. And I suspect they might use the water. The ecoli situation is very alarming.

KAMPALA, Uganda (AP) — A Ugandan health official says six more patients suspected to have Ebola have been admitted to the hospital days after investigators confirmed an outbreak of the highly infectious disease in a remote corner of western Uganda.

www.boston.com...

Ebola is one terrifying virus.

If some of you are interested, you should check out Laurie Garret's The Coming Plauge. The book is over 10 years old now, so much has changed. But it has some fascinating history on outbreaks and responses (50 years worth).

It's been a long time since I read the book, but if I am remembering correctly, the way the deceased's family handles the body for burial is one of the factors in the spread of the disease. I found a link that mentions the burials and also confirms the 2,000 body bag number.

Following confirmation of Ebola, health workers in Kibaale have taken over management of burials.

At Kagadi Hospital, an isolation ward was set up, where relatives are not allowed to attend to their patients for fear that they might contract the disease.

Dr. Joachim Saweka, the WHO country representative, said WHO Geneva would dispatch 2,000 sets of protective gear and body bags to prevent spread of the disease. Additional assistance is expected from the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention.

www.newvision.co.ug