Okay...where do you think all the money (in the world) is going?

IMHO there is something awfully wrong and are the people not told the truth about this global economic crisis that is going on. It is my intuition which is screaming that it is not making any sense.

Bank fraude...poor management on the highest levels of governments all over the world...at the same moment in time? Too much coincidence if you'd ask me. There is a global money drain for something....

For some I will be going of the bend when I say that this money is maybe to finance the chemtrail project, building underground bunkers, the sudden need to build a spacefleet.....whatever.

We all know there are criminals in high office, bank managers and so on but I refuse to believe that the actions of these few brought down the world economy.

What else can it be other than poor management, busines skills and fraud?

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Well I was gonna make a post the other day about Hillary Clintons speech announcing the US giving $150 Million to aids research.

The people with aids I think are less then 1% of the entire global population. But we are donating $150 million to it none the less, while people are homeless and starving in the streets of America.

Genocide, its a cash cow apparently.

Well 13 trillion of the crap has been found to be in offshore accounts, not sure if its £££ or $$$!!!! I really dont see the point because once our monetary system crashes, which in my opinion is just around the corner it will become worthless.

Originally posted by andy06shake
Well 13 trillion of the crap has been found to be in offshore accounts, not sure if its £££ or $$$!!!! I really dont see the point because once our monetary system crashes, which in my opinion is just around the corner it will become worthless.

edit on 27-7-2012 by andy06shake because: (no reason given)

Unless you convert it to something physical, heck that could start a crash if the number was big enough.
If there is ever a "real" crash in the US we are gonna need some good accountants in order to point us in the direction we need to fire our rifles.

reply to post by g146541


Well Its always a different country separated by ocean.

That seems to be an ongoing problem.

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"If there is ever a "real" crash in the US we are gonna need some good accountants in order to point us in the direction we need to fire our rifles."

Funny man, thats priceless! That made me LMAO, you set me up for the day! LoL LoL LoL

They are buying up land, resources, precious metals, oil reserves, weapons, munitions, ect.

IMO, They are getting ready for a long haul war.

Preparing for civil unrest, foreign powers that might throw their weight should a world conflict erupt. The rest of the worlds countries cant beef up their military and are making cuts. That is exactly what they want. Then if they don't accept an alliance when the chips are on the table, they are starved out of their unwillingness to compromise with TPTB.

Then we might see things like the invasion of Mexico, blamed on narco killings of US citizens.

They might engage parts of south America if Asia sits back and waits its turn.

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The annunaki are coming back and they want there gold!!!

I thought everyone knew this!!

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yeah, thats why they hire union workers. They know they can't do it all on their own, so they hired some slaves.

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"The annunaki are coming back and they want there gold!!!"

This could actually be a real possibility since our Gold is going the way of the dinosaur, its going somewhere anyway!

To really understand this you have to grasp the relationship between actual money and credit creation. It's a little complex, but to oversimplify, the banking system altogether is allowed to create about 97 dollars in loans and credit for every 3 dollars it actually holds, out of thin air. (It is actually much worse when you consider derivatives, but let's leave that aside that for simplicity's sake.) A lot of this debt/credit is booked as real "money" through accounting trickery even though it isn't.

Here's another way to think about it. A couple puts down 3000 dollars down payment and buys a 100,000-dollar house. Then because a similar neighboring house gets sold later for 200,000, the value of the couple's house goes to 200,000 on paper. The couple feels like they "have" 200,000 now, even though only 3000 actual dollars changed hands. But later when they go to sell after the housing bubble has popped, nobody buys it so actually they have zero. Where did that 200,000 "go?" Nowhere. 197,000 of it never truly existed in the first place. This "disappearance" is called "deleveraging" and it's what's going on now on a mass scale all over the world, impacting nations, individuals, and businesses alike.

reply to post by andy06shake


But where can I cash in my federal reserve note?

The money goes into the bank accounts of the private owners of industry, who are getting fewer and fewer.

“What has happened is the wealthy have continued to accumulate more wealth relative to the rest of the country, have been able to manipulate the laws, legislation, the politicians that create the system that enables this top continue,” said Prins.

Rich and poor divide expands in America

The only people with the economic power to manipulate government is the capitalist class. The manipulation has gone so far that government is predominately ran by, and for, the capitalist class.

Incorporating has allowed the capitalists class to gain more control over government, by accumulating small companies into more powerful large corporations.

The capitalist class has taken the power away from you.

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Ok well we all know thats a lie.

Please go spread your communist crap to a different country, thank you.

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Communism does work on paper, but people are corrupt, thats why it does not work efficiently in practice. I think we have proven by running the world economy in to the ground that capitalism is in no way a solution to our problems. Time for something new me thinks.

Originally posted by thehoneycomb

Ok well we all know thats a lie.

How is it a lie, please elaborate. What am I lying about?

Please go spread your communist crap to a different country, thank you.

It's not communist crap, it is the reality of our situation, you just fail to see it. I'm not a communist, so please stop with the generalizations.

C'mon at least attempt to have a discussion.

The Big Myth

The myth is widespread and deeply rooted that big business and big government are rivals—that big business wants small government.

A 1935 Chicago Daily Tribune column argued that voting against Franklin D. Roosevelt was voting for big business. "Led by the President," the columnist wrote, "New Dealers have accepted the challenge, confident the people will repudiate organized business and give the Roosevelt program a new lease on life." However, three days earlier, the president of the Chamber of Commerce and a group of other business leaders met with FDR to support expanding the New Deal....

Don't be afraid to read the rest...

Big Business and Big Government

I can't believe people fall for the nonsense mainstream politics and media feeds them, well I'll let you into a reality, liberalism is not socialism, and capitalism is not free-markets.

Of course you'll argue I'm wrong, big surprise.

Why do you think people are homeless and starving on American streets? Because capitalism works for the working class?

McRibs and the art of artificial scarcity

An interesting take on the necessary artificial scarcity of capitalism. There are no profits in abundance. When profits shrink production is reduced. Those at the bottom feel it the worst.

Whether today's global overcapacity is seen as cause or effect of the economic crisis, one thing is certain: it isn't easy to make a profit in a world awash with overproduction. Capitalism is born in conditions of scarcity and is unable to function outside of them. So it seems logical that the crisis creates a tendency to restore these conditions artificially. But how does this affect the chances of the global economy to find a way out of its present predicament?

Artificial scarcity in a world of overproduction: an escape that isn't

Capitalism is not solving the worlds problems, it is causing them. Artificial scarcity in a world of need, due to the requirement of capitalists to make profit. When profits stop the machinery to produce stops, the people at the bottom feel it the worst. The machinery to produce needed resources stop working, because the private owner stopped making profit (or moved production overseas in order to make more profit from cheaper labour).

Because capitalists moved production to cheaper labour markets means the American worker is now competing with foreign countries for work. There was a time the worker only had to compete with their neighbours for work. Then it became the whole town, then the next town, the next state, and now the next country...

Capitalists maintain the upper hand because they own the means to produce, so they control and manipulate the market, and the state, to their own benefit.

This is nothing to do with communism, I have preached nothing, only shared my observation of the current state of affairs. You don't like it? Do I care?

reply to post by ANOK


Well,...
They wear the label of capitalist but government subsidies, handouts, Etc. are hardly capitalism.
Leave the markets alone and you will see capitalism.
We have not seen that in a long while.

reply to post by g146541


You never saw it nor communism for that matter, socialism on the other hand has been implemented and to a point seems to work look to Sweden, Denmark etc

I'm not fond of socialism but capitalism and communism can not coexist at the same time if they interact due to competition they are both doomed to fail (get corrupted due to the efforts of self preservation of each distinct system)

Anarchism has also failed due to its inability to work in large systems, the best example was in Spain, for the time it worked, it is arguable if there is a thing as a anarchist society but if such a thing is possible it would suffer from the same issues that prevent capitalism and communism, that is being able to co-exist with other ideologies in the case of anarchism it does not really get corrupted is fail because it is co-opted due to its intrinsic instability. See Anarchism in Spain at Wikipedia

Anarchists can be revolutionaries but there can't be really any complex organized defense of the ideology, much like there is no organized defense of the public domain, in a very similar way to public interests when the state decided to disregard its duties.

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I support your comments.

People don't realize that the end goal of "capitalism" IS communism. They WANT to take away so much of the wealth from people at the bottom such that they have it concentrated into only a very few hands. While that happens, people become more reliant on the gov't. They don't mind that, as long as nobody is able to "touch" them financially. They don't care if they have to give you enough for you to live and eat, as long as they can reduce your wages to utter crap and basically force you to work for almost nothing. That's as close to slavery as it gets, and it's only going to get worse.

They are letting the US become flooded with Mexicans so that they provide competition to US workers. So, you don't like the working conditions and pay? Well, there are lots of Mexicans growing up today who will be happy to work for much less and send money back home to their relatives.

We are living under the rule of fascist communists. But, it's not communism as in "everyone shares everything." It's communism as in, power and wealth is concentrated into the hands of a few, and people are given things to help them live...until eventually they are given the bare essentials. As long as it gets worse gradually, people are okay; they won't notice.

Today the very wealthy can hide in the shadows (despite going to CFR meetings and such). Tomorrow, they will stay hidden. They will rule from behind the scenes like they already do. Nobody will even recognize their names in a few decades. It's going to be awful, but people will eventually be none the wiser...probably just stupider and more deluded than they already are.

I can tell you one thing for sure:

It's not going into my pockets!