OP: You called it like an official Ref (so don't be surprised if the losers get a little whiny.
Originally posted by Outfoxed
reply to post by 13th Zodiac
I just joined ATS to respond to this thread (been reading on and off since 2003). Did you notice what happened on ATS after you posted this thread?
Well if you read this thread, www.abovetopsecret.com... posted recently, you might be aware of a cointelpro technique
called 'forum sliding'. YOU just got slid big time. right after you posted this, while it was still on the 'new topics' list on the right, the
following threads were started, and quickly responded to, resulting in this thread being 'slid' off the list;
Those other threads are pontless one liners, knocked up in a hurry to bury your thread, they received several very quick responses, possibly from the
cointelpro agents sock puppet accounts.
Anyway, you sir are onto something, and if breaking my 8 year lurking habit helps get it pushed back into view, I will be glad to have helped.
Brilliant observation. I've actually seen this happen around here quite a lot. The good thing about this (and that's not sarcasm) is that if you
spend enough time here to witness it, you get to see which threads are likely to be "hot button" and contain some hard (maybe dangerous?) truth. And
also which members are likely to be COINTELPRO. So see through.
You can also recognize them by their words. Their rediculous rebuttals and constant need to "deny ignorance" via blind skepticism (the dark twin of
blind faith.) Of course, some blind skeptics are merely blind, and not COINTELPRO. Look around you. Read between the lines. (Might I suggest you even
look at screen name and avatar symbolism?
They're becoming easier to spot. Didn't someone famous say something like "By their works shall you
To Darth Prime: There is not only one type of satanist, just as there is not only one type of christian. Beliefs vary. No one has used the term
"Church of Satan" which is the type of satanism you're probably thinking of. Sometimes called "La Vey Styled." The Church of Satan are actually
atheist and believe in a kind of self deification (hence the reference to satan, or lucifer). Strangely, they also believe in and practice the occult
(oxy moron, or something that is not public knowledge?)
Anton LaVey does, in fact, write about human sacrifice, though in this same writing he is clear that he does not advocate murder. Not all satanists
think this way. Some believe in a literal "evil" entity which they give praise and worship to. Some of these believe that commiting atrocity is a
form of worship.
Originally posted by clenz
reply to post by Runciter33
I wasn't aware an event with "lots of blood" deemed it a "blood ritual".
First, and most importantly, he did not say it would be a blood ritual. He said "blood letting." And I'm pretty sure that's what happened. But
another point worth your consideration is this:
Not all dogs are golden retrievers.
All golden retrievers are dogs.
Not all blood-spilling would be considered a (blood) ritual.
All blood rituals involve (the spilling of) blood.
The famous occultist Aleister Crowley advocated that the partner for a "sex magick" ritual need not know they are participating.
Rituals can take many forms. I would imagine there is quite a lot you don't know about ritual. Most who haven't taken the time to study the subject
expressly can fall victim to common misunderstanding, or lack of knowledge.
Originally posted by cry93
reply to post by Q2IN2Y
I do not believe one can offer up the blood of the unwilling. Either you agree or disagree.
Most occult theorists disagree with you. Please read my response directly above about crowley, if you haven't already. Further, I believe it was
Anton Szandor LaVey (Was it in "The Satanic Witch?") said that the terror / pain experienced by a sacrifice can add more needed energy to a ritual.
This whole thing actually works "nicely" as a sacrifice.