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"Many people claim to have a near death experience that includes leaving our body, going thru a tunnel, seeing a bright light and hearing a voice that says, 'It is not your time, go back." Back in 1984, Pastor Harry had a near death experience unlike any oher for he met satan, the devil, as he truly is, the serpent of old.
Originally posted by EfficientP
In the second part of this man's interview, he describes his encounter with a terrifying looking creature that he experienced in an NDE. What this man says may bring to mind the description of Quetzalcoatl, the feathered serpent, and that odd looking half human/half animal sphinx structure and, of course, the serpent of old. Listen to the interview to hear what this scary entity told him and how he escaped. He describes this thing having this rainbow colors coming out of its forehead.
"Many people claim to have a near death experience that includes leaving our body, going thru a tunnel, seeing a bright light and hearing a voice that says, 'It is not your time, go back." Back in 1984, Pastor Harry had a near death experience unlike any oher for he met satan, the devil, as he truly is, the serpent of old.
Part 2 of interview
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Originally posted by adjensen
reply to post by MaMaa
Here's a page that has a bunch of data on NDEs from atheists, you might find it interesting.
NDE Analysis of Atheists
www.buzzle.com...
It also hampers the oxygen carrying capacity of blood
Originally posted by EfficientP
In the second part of this man's interview, he describes his encounter with a terrifying looking creature that he experienced in an NDE. What this man says may bring to mind the description of Quetzalcoatl, the feathered serpent, and that odd looking half human/half animal sphinx structure and, of course, the serpent of old. Listen to the interview to hear what this scary entity told him and how he escaped. He describes this thing having this rainbow colors coming out of its forehead.
"Many people claim to have a near death experience that includes leaving our body, going thru a tunnel, seeing a bright light and hearing a voice that says, 'It is not your time, go back." Back in 1984, Pastor Harry had a near death experience unlike any oher for he met satan, the devil, as he truly is, the serpent of old.
Part 2 of interview
edit on 12-7-2012 by EfficientP because: (no reason given)edit on 12-7-2012 by EfficientP because: (no reason given)
www.satansrapture.com...
THE CHURCH OF PHILADELPHIA - INTERNET
FOUNDED SEPT 1997 BY
PASTOR HARRY,
Originally posted by MagnumOpus
Originally posted by adjensen
reply to post by MaMaa
Here's a page that has a bunch of data on NDEs from atheists, you might find it interesting.
NDE Analysis of Atheists
Since the bulk of that article speaks to someone choking on smoked Salmon, which is basically hypoxia or lack of oxygen, that is manifest with hallucinations, why is it significant?
Originally posted by Ookie
reply to post by MagnumOpus
I have smoked marijuana since I was 16 and have never had one hallucination. I wanted them and have tried and tried to have them. I did meet God once while huffing gasoline. But off weed? Not possible. Not even remotely possible.
www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au...
Cannabis can precipitate the first episode of psychosis
If someone has a predisposition to a psychotic illness, such as schizophrenia, use of drugs such as cannabis may trigger the first episode in what can be a lifelong, disabling condition. There is increasing evidence that regular cannabis use precedes and causes higher rates of psychotic illness. Psychotic illnesses are characterised by:
Delusions – for example, the person believes they have special powers.
Hallucinations – for example, the person hears voices or sees things that aren’t really there.
Thought disorder – for example, the person has difficulty organising their thoughts.
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by MagnumOpus
Originally posted by adjensen
reply to post by MaMaa
Here's a page that has a bunch of data on NDEs from atheists, you might find it interesting.
NDE Analysis of Atheists
Since the bulk of that article speaks to someone choking on smoked Salmon, which is basically hypoxia or lack of oxygen, that is manifest with hallucinations, why is it significant?
You should really learn to think before you post... there are dozens of different people referenced on that page. Are you saying that they all choked on smoked salmon?
The 19 points of statistical analysis at the bottom of the page, as I said, may be of interest to the person that I directed the reply to.
Originally posted by adjensen
reply to post by MaMaa
Here's a page that has a bunch of data on NDEs from atheists, you might find it interesting.
NDE Analysis of Atheists
Originally posted by MagnumOpus
Especially when it doesn't deal with the biggest issue that causes hallucinations in NDE, hypoxia and anoxia.
Utterly pitiful science techniques applied to this study, making it pretty much worthless.
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by MagnumOpus
Especially when it doesn't deal with the biggest issue that causes hallucinations in NDE, hypoxia and anoxia.
Utterly pitiful science techniques applied to this study, making it pretty much worthless.
Either you're not paying attention, or you're being argumentative just to be argumentative.
The relevant information on that page is nothing to do with causes, it is what atheists who had NDEs had to say about them. It doesn't matter if their experience was the result of something spiritual, a hallucination, or they just dreamed it -- because the "science" involved is polling and statistical analysis.
If it was an in-depth study of what causes NDEs, you might have a salient point, but it isn't, so you don't.
www.near-death.com...
But when Ayer himself was dying two decades later, he wasn't so sure. Having choked on a piece of smoked salmon that stopped his heart for at least four minutes, the famed philosopher saw, and heard things he had spent a lifetime denying.
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Jack Foreman, a US naval technician, combines most of the common elements. Foreman was "cooked" by a radar leak and had major surgery for a large hole in his diaphragm. Several days later, he appeared to die. "I could look down on my whole body," he later reported. "One medic was applying electric paddles to my chest to shock me back and shouting Breathe, you sonofabitch, breathe.'"
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Because of its radioactive status, Foreman's body had been taken to a cleaning room. He had a feeling that he re-entered painfully through his toes and when he spoke, the medics were totally shocked.
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www.near-death.com...
an article written by P.M.H. Atwater, L.H.D., Ph.D. (Hon.)
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Kevin Williams' NDE Analysis of Common Aspects
My research into NDE reports have been limited to those NDEs I read in published material and those sent to me by email. Because the experiences sent to me by email have not been verified, my analysis cannot be considered to be scientific. Combining all the published and email experiences, this gave me a total of fifty experiences to analyze.
www.near-death.com...
All joking aside, here is how I describe myself: middle-aged, computer scientist, cable news junkie, manic depressive, universalist Christian with Gnostic and Tibetan Buddhist leanings, former Montana cowboy, U.S. Army veteran, social liberal, economic conservative, single Californian, internet addict, and last but not least, NDE evangelist. I am also the author of "Nothing Better Than Death" on the subject of NDEs.
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How I converted from a doper to a follower of Jesus
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Modern Christianity is best understood as "Pauline Christianity" because it is based around the teachings of Paul rather than Jesus.
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The original teachings of Jesus became lost. They were never seen again until 1945 when they were discovered near Nag Hammadi, Egypt. Two years later, the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered.
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Nevertheless, by studying the historical records and allowing NDE concepts to guide me, I reached the same conclusion many others are - that original Christianity taught by Jesus resembles Tibetan Buddhism more than Christianity of Jerry Falwell and the Catholicism of Madonna.
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These mystical teachings of attaining a human-divine unity can be found in Buddhism (Tibetan), Islam (Sufi), Judaism (Kabala), Hinduism (too many to list), and Christianity (Gnosticism).
Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by MagnumOpus
MJ is linked to schizophrenia if consumed as a young teenager in some people. You said it caused hallucinations via oxygen deprivation which is wrong. Read your own links.
With your line of thought cigarettes would make people hallucinate.edit on 15-7-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)
www.druglibrary.org...
4.17 Most of our witnesses regard the consequences of smoking cannabis as the most important long-term risk associated with cannabis use[11]. Cannabis smoke contains all of the toxic chemicals present in tobacco smoke (apart from nicotine), with greater concentrations of carcinogenic benzanthracenes and benzpyrenes It has been estimated (BMA p 11) that smoking a cannabis cigarette (containing only herbal cannabis) results in approximately a fivefold greater increase in carboxyhaemoglobin concentration[12], a threefold greater increase in the amount of tar inhaled, and a retention in the respiratory tract of one third more tar, than smoking a tobacco cigarette.
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12 Carboxy-haemoglobin is formed by the action of carbon monoxide on haemoglobin in the blood. It interferes with the transport of oxygen around the body.
books.google.com... o&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6igEUPzJDanc0QHmwtCwBw&ved=0CEsQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Marijuana%20oxygen%20transport&f=false
www.ivanhoe.com...
Cannabis Joint More Harmful Than Multiple Cigarettes
Both large and small airways in the lungs were damaged by cannabis smoking, restricting airflow, and blocking oxygen transport -- thus forcing the lungs to work harder. Study authors explained the increased damaging effects of cannabis are related to the way cannabis is smoked -- usually without a filter, and at a higher temperature.