9/11 Solved!

reply to post by Maluhia


Yeah, this threw me.. I dont know if he meant it to be implied differently, but there were definitely people in those buildings.. They were "pre-emtied", Unless he is refering to WTC7

reply to post by OutonaLimb


Respectfully, OutonaLimb, you are living in some delusional reality of your own construct, and in parallel with reality.. ( To be polite.)

Originally posted by stirling
I have to agree with some of your analsis but not all the way to a japnese world empire centered there....
Or are they too going to be the NEW FRONTMEN for the next stage and the next set of players as those who control resources play their power games?

The Empire is almost complete. The west will be restructured in time and be
re-assimilated. Vast numbers of willing soldiers are available for selection from
the huge Eastern population centres.
Japan will not be centre of the East Empire but the Jewel in the Crown, the new eden.
The land of the rising sun. There is only one.
The original roman Empire got so far East, but no further. The dream didn't die.

This is the meaning of the eye within the pyramid top, and all similar representations.
This is why the sun plays such a central role in the design of countless insider logos
and emblems etc.
The Jewel in the Crown/representation of the land of the rising sun is set within the
remaining portion of the pyramid, the portion yet to be conquered, before the empire
can be finally complete.

Originally posted by zroth


There is no empire.

There are the souls and soulless.

When the flood water subsided; bullies came down and stole peoples' ish.

There is nothing complicated. Life is easy. Some people complete the great work.

Some people simply spend their days experiencing life to build their understanding.

The lack of respect, for life, by those that committed these acts is as real as the lives that were lost.

Separating one's self from the collective humanity is one of the root causes of our woes on this planet.

We are one race; racism is impossible. We live on one planet; nations are a lie. Resources, while controlled are abundant; controlling those resources is a decision by people that feel they are entitled to rule.

Think of Rome 2,000 years ago.
These ancestors retain the same values and ways of thinking.
More than Roman Catholic priests are known to be engaged in
sexual encounters with young boys.

Ordinary decent people are dumb and dirty animals to them,
meant to be herded, used and discarded.

They have a 'Do what thou wilt' and 'Survival of the fittest' mentality to them.
And they number in the millions.

They have belittled us our entire lives.

Originally posted by Destinyone

Originally posted by OutonaLimb

Originally posted by Maluhia

9/11 as an event was fake. There were no terrorists, no plane crashes, no real victims. Just a special effects movie/storyboard acted out, and distributed and sold to the public by co-conspirators, along with the (behind the scenes) conventional demolition of pre-emptied buildings -

So, my sister's fiancee is not really dead and all those funerals/services I went to were part of a movie script? Shouldn't I have been paid as an extra then?

No matter who you think is responsible - please have some respect for the VERY REAL lives lost.

No. He was either a computer generated fictional creation or, If he really existed,
was relocated. Funerals are easily faked, and people are easily fooled.

There were no intact bodies found on 9/11.
There were no real victims, A prerequisite for any operation like 9/11.

All directly involved in the 9/11 show were in the club.
And you are either in the club, or you are not.

I have every respect for all life.

You need to see a mental specialist. You are maybe experiencing a manic phase of a personality disorder.

You certainly aren't expressing reality here....

Des

I fully expect this and similar reactions. These connections are beyond the
abilities of most to discern.
But this is too big to get bogged down. Google the relevant terms to prove
to yourself that the basis for everything i say is solidly grounded.

You have to be willing to zoom out and view the bigger picture with
a completely open mind. Then Think Hard.

This has massive implications for all Westerners.

And I have never been of more sound mind, in spite of all the resistence
i encounter.

Originally posted by ColoradoJens
reply to post by OutonaLimb

 

No, you are not of sound mind if you truly belive there were no people in the buildings. Watching people jump to their death and knowing personally of people who died is something that I did not make up. I watched it happen, I was there and this is not something you should continue to promote. For real bro? Funerals are made up?
The humans I saw that died, the ones I helped who escaped - jesus man, you are nuts.

CJ

Again there is no point getting bogged down on details. We were treated to a
contrived and fabricated, years in the planning theatrical production on 9/11.
The destruction of the WTC was symbolically used to represent the beginning
of the endgame, the destruction of the dollar, leading to the eventual collapse
of the western world as we know it.
It is imperative in operations such as 9/11 that no-one dies. Any and All 'events'
with co-incidental and mirroring same-day 'drills and exercises' are completely
faked also. This includes 9/11 and events like 7/7 London Bombings, the Madrid
train bombings and The Oslo and Utoya murderous rampage of Fake Identity
Anders Breivik.
There were no real victims at any of these staged events.
Google relevant terms to see that the basis of all that i have said is strongly
grounded.
Everything else is smoke, mirrors, fancy editting, artwork, computer software and
camera work.

Faking deaths and funerals is bread and butter stuff to these people. They have
dazzling resourses (human and technological) at their beck and call.
Incriminating evidence (of which there is copious amounts) found by following
'conventional' 9/11 conspiracy theory, was deliberately inserted into the narrative,
to be discovered or made public closer to the end-date, and used to enrage
the public and to trigger all-out revolution.

Originally posted by Ben81

Originally posted by Maluhia

9/11 as an event was fake. There were no terrorists, no plane crashes, no real victims. Just a special effects movie/storyboard acted out, and distributed and sold to the public by co-conspirators, along with the (behind the scenes) conventional demolition of pre-emptied buildings -

So, my sister's fiancee is not really dead and all those funerals/services I went to were part of a movie script? Shouldn't I have been paid as an extra then?

No matter who you think is responsible - please have some respect for the VERY REAL lives lost.

The best way to pay our respect to those 3000 innocent that died that day

IS FINDING THE TRUTH

Pretty sure they wouldnt like to be sacrificed for the evil hidden agenda of the elite

Only one group of people were partying at the exact same moment in the streets
5 israeli with a visa with a strange white van that was arrested but ordered by high officer to be release

When you will know it was all planned way before 9/11
you will see why they had to go to Irak and Afghanistan
for Syria and Iran

Hitler sacrifice hundreds of german to with the Reichtag fire to invade Polland

By finding the real truth behind 9/11 and who really organised it
we will honor the innocent that lost their live .. all sacrifice for their global war

edit on 7/12/2012 by Ben81 because: (no reason given)

All Israeli involvement in 9/11 has been made a little too obvious.
They as a nation and a race (along with the zionist component) are scapegoats
or sacrificial frontmen, designed and used absorb the blows and divert attentions.
Master criminals do not leave clear and present evidence of complicity around
crime scenes, unless they have a good reason to.
The Israeli nation will also be transformed as the currency collapses, the people
rise against their government as their twisted history of 'undeniable' complicity
in heneous crimes from the past comes to light.
Another of the Empires engineered bulldog fall-guy creations will be destroyed
from within, with most of the outside world none the wiser.
Then the redesign. All goes as planned.

This is Machiavellian stuff. We need to start thinking differently.
The Jews completely succumbed to the Romans just over 2,000 years ago.

Hitler was a British agent who was following orders. The divided, empoverished and
decimated German people suffered terribly during and after the War because of the
unjust treacheries of the many Empire readying attrocities that were perpetrated against
them.

Media fakery was effective in those times also, and a hell of a lot
went on. Populations were just as gullible. If the press said people died,
then people died. Why would they lie?

There were no real victims on 9/11.

Originally posted by Maluhia
reply to post by OutonaLimb

 

I am trying really hard to be civil right now, but you need medication. 90 members of my community died that day. I was there. I saw the smoke and flames, heard the planes hit. I picked up burnt debris. I usually don't respond to suppositional 9/11 posts because they are so undignified. YOURS is the worst! Can you please come to my neighborhood and tell all the children who lost their fathers your theory????

Actually I can't believe I just wasted 5 minutes of my life responding to you.

Don't forget to add on the number of minutes you wasted reading the OP.

9/11 symbolises the beginning of the endgame of the crash of the dollar, leading up to the
collapse of the U.S.
9/11 was a completely fabricated and contrived 'event'. The Empire has unlimited
resources and have taken care of All aspects relating to the promotion of All associated
myths connected to that day.
Very shortly now 'new information' will emerge publically, incriminating those already
incriminated in the minds of many 9/11 conspiracy theorist supporters.
Public outrage will overflow and all energies will be spent, bent on destroying
a percieved (ghost) enemy that the real enemy has created and used for their specific
purposes, and who have pencilled in exactly this ending into their reckoning.

Google any relevant terms to confirm that the basis of everything i say is
strongly grounded in truth.

This is too big to get bogged down on any particular. 9/11 is irrelevant now.
The immediate dangers imminently before us are not.

reply to post by Maluhia


While I feel for your loss, when it comes to uncle sam, everyone is expendable.

reply to post by OutonaLimb


'There's UFOs over New York and I ain't too surprised...

Nobody told me there'd be days like these,
Nobody told me there'd be days like these,
Nobody told me there'd be days like these,

Strange days indeed.' -John Lennon

Hey I don't think you're crazy, and I want to hear more.

I was just about to go to bed and now here I am typing, at the very least I want to see how this thread plays out. To be honest, the last 2 dozen or so (I dunno, maybe 100 even) 9/11 threads in here were putting me to sleep, same old blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Let me have it all.

I agree a lot of 9/11 is too obvious. It's all part of the plan etc. Go On. I'm listening.

Tell me though, why is Japan the prize? What's so special about it? That part is not clear to me.


Cheers

Originally posted by ColoradoJens
reply to post by Ben81

 

I agree Ben81, but the fact of the matter is this dude is saying no one was in the building. How can a lie get get us closer to the truth? I like his ideas overall but this is stupid and makes me think this is a troll thread. Saw it with my own eyes and get angry when people say junk like this.

CJ

There were a few companies whose 'employees' were located in the buildings on 9/11
but everyone was evacuated safely when the drill/exercise began.
The buildings for the most part were gutted and emptied of floors and
contents long in advance.
The WTC was specifically built to be symbolically destroyed on 9/11/2001.
The scope of the operation, the timescales involved and the depth of planning
required is mind-boggling. They covered every base, meticulously.

They do not want people to realise the extents to which media fakery has been incorporated
into this, and other similar policy changing (fantastical) event narratives.

reply to post by OutonaLimb

Now, I'm in Australia and therefore any thoughts I have are primarily based on the information I have found. I was not there, so can't claim much in the way of first hand experience.
One thing that bothers me though, and I don't really hear too many people talking about it (which doesn't mean they don't!) is the chance that the twin towers were both hit with planes AND destroyed with explosives.

To me the theory is simple and realistic.

The twin towers had been targeted before. If you know there is a good chance someone will try again, you need some form of preventive strategy even if it means doing something that the public may not want. To me it makes sense that perhaps they (the government, or military) distributed explosives throughout the buildings so that, should it be attacked beyond repair, they could be brought down without taking out half the city around them.

Wouldn't that explain a few things?

For example, there's always discussion about "PULL IT". Well... just maybe, they made a decision to detonate the explosives once a line had been crossed structurally wise. Having explosives hidden in the buildings isn't the sort of thing that's going to go down well with the public - would you wish to work in a place that is set to blow if something bad happens? What if the information gets into the wrong hands? Many risks I'm sure, but it would sure explain a few things..

So that's my little theory. They knew it might happen. Then it did happen. Then they had to blow the towers to avoid an even bigger disaster.
Then again, I could be way off base....

Originally posted by drock905

You're being extremely disrespectfull to the people who died that day and their families. If someone is a truther or OSer, Debate the events and bring up points you believe make your point all you want but Denying that there were humans inside the buildings and planes is just sick, if you seriously believe that you may need some help.

I do seriously believe that.
Google 9/11 fake victims and see where it goes.

We have been lied to our whole lives. Continuing to listen to and
heed liars is each individuals choice, informed or otherwise.
I informedly choose to not listen.

This is too big to get bogged down in details.
I am an honest and decent man, who is loathe to disrespect any innocent/one, living or dead.
My feeling is that the dead need neither respect nor disrespect from the living.

reply to post by OutonaLimb


CONGRATULATIONS - You are officially the most messed up person I have come across on this site!

I've read some really crazy stuff on here, but this just takes the biscuit



And you keep saying you don't want to get 'bogged down by details' - Durrrrrrr...I think you'll the details are quite important.

Originally posted by OutonaLimb

Originally posted by Destinyone

Originally posted by OutonaLimb

Originally posted by Maluhia

9/11 as an event was fake. There were no terrorists, no plane crashes, no real victims. Just a special effects movie/storyboard acted out, and distributed and sold to the public by co-conspirators, along with the (behind the scenes) conventional demolition of pre-emptied buildings -

So, my sister's fiancee is not really dead and all those funerals/services I went to were part of a movie script? Shouldn't I have been paid as an extra then?

No matter who you think is responsible - please have some respect for the VERY REAL lives lost.

No. He was either a computer generated fictional creation or, If he really existed,
was relocated. Funerals are easily faked, and people are easily fooled.

There were no intact bodies found on 9/11.
There were no real victims, A prerequisite for any operation like 9/11.

All directly involved in the 9/11 show were in the club.
And you are either in the club, or you are not.

I have every respect for all life.

You need to see a mental specialist. You are maybe experiencing a manic phase of a personality disorder.

You certainly aren't expressing reality here....

Des

I fully expect this and similar reactions. These connections are beyond the
abilities of most to discern.
But this is too big to get bogged down. Google the relevant terms to prove
to yourself that the basis for everything i say is solidly grounded.

You have to be willing to zoom out and view the bigger picture with
a completely open mind. Then Think Hard.

This has massive implications for all Westerners.

And I have never been of more sound mind, in spite of all the resistence
i encounter.

You are so far from sound of mind, it's sad. Have you ever lost a loved one? Honest question. A relative, good friend who you know for a fact is gone, dead. Answer this one question for me. If not for me, then at least for yourself.

Now, I'm telling you, they are not dead at all. It was part of a vast conspiracy to trick you into thinking that. It was staged, faked, they have been whisked away, relocated by some nefarious group in carrying out a plan you can't even conceive of. But, you say, I saw them die, I went to their funeral....but I tell you..."no, they didn't die at all.".

How does that make you feel. Would you think I was nuttier than a fruitcake. That's how I feel about you.

What you are saying are the words of a delusional person. I don't know what happened in your life to drive you this far over the edge, but you have some very real personal issues to deal with. Taking your unwillingness to deal with those issues, and creating this preposterous scenario, trying to pass it off as reality, shows the cracks in your armor.

JMOHO.....Des

Originally posted by Ben81

Originally posted by ColoradoJens
reply to post by Ben81

 

I agree Ben81, but the fact of the matter is this dude is saying no one was in the building. How can a lie get get us closer to the truth? I like his ideas overall but this is stupid and makes me think this is a troll thread. Saw it with my own eyes and get angry when people say junk like this.

CJ

Well he is wrong on that
the elite need some colateral damage
to motivate the troops at a maximum level
without this attack .. it was impossible for the US to launch an attack on another country

People died in both towers .. and many died after because of the toxic dust
one day we will know the truth .. but they will be sure not befiore they go into Iran

edit on 7/12/2012 by Ben81 because: (no reason given)

The troops were motivated and the American people galvanised by believing 3,000 died.
3,000 faked victim identities achieves the exact same levels of motivation, but was infinitely
cleaner and more conducive to the logistics of planning such a large and intricate operation
involving hundreds with hands-on acted parts that day, and thousands in the know behind
the scenes.
Mass murder of their countrymen involving a conspiracy of thousands?
No! Impossible! Could not happen!

What is being reported concerning Syria and Iran is nothing more that a hefty dose
of fear mongering mixed in with more concocted and manipulative lies.
Syria is one of the last countries left to fall into line, but you can rest assured that
what is going on behind the scenes is a far cry from whatever claptrap is presented to
us on the screen.
The Russian, Chinese and Turkish military upper echelons are in cahoots with their U.S.,
U.K., the U.N. and Israel counterparts, as all have longsince been on the same boards and
on the same page. They are simply playing out the parts scripted for them.

Iran will be a central country playing a central role in the new Eastern Empire.
All the current (false) rumblings are for the purposes of further vilifying (too 'obviously'
though) and incriminating the continual aggressors U.S., the U.N. and Israel for the benefit,
in differing ways, of both the new Eastern population and their old western counterparts, for
a time in the not too distant future.

We have been lied to all our lives.
Take a step back, and see the truth in this.

So you believe 911 was faked but all the other stuff you cite after is real? How do you know that all the wars and debt aren't faked as well?

For everyone... the sad thing is that some ideas will be spouted again and again until far down the road, no one will know what really happened. As usual. On day 911 will be a religion complete temples and "hi" priests. And the tale will be tall indeed.

Originally posted by lunarasparagus
The song goes: "Living is easy with eyes closed", not "eyes shut". "Eyes shut" sounds lame. John Lennon didn't write lame stuff. Have some respect.

The rest of your post sounds lame also.

I think, er, no, I mean, er, yes, but its all wrong
That is, I think I disagree

Eyes shut sounds OK to me when i play it.
And John Lennon wrote plenty of lame stuff.

Unfortunately John Lennon and the Beatles were products of the Tavistock
institute, They were insiders.
Not just McCartney, but all four beatles were replaced by lookalikes at least
once before 1970.

he's not thinking outside the box, he's never even seen the box.

Originally posted by OutonaLimb
all four beatles were replaced by lookalikes at least once before 1970.

What about the Dave Clark Five? I always thought it was suspicious having a drummer as a singer. Were they insiders too?