Originally posted by caladonea
reply to post by Bilk22

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I do realize that the FBI wants to be able to easily spy on everyone...because of 9/11...but what about an individuals privacy...I guess total privacy will soon be a thing of the past.

Originally posted by GhostLancer
reply to post by Bilk22

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Your thread title is misleading, while partially true. This did not begin, nor will it end, with Obama. A more accurate title would have been "The US Government and the FBI want to spy on YOU." This situation is regardless of which president sits in the big chair. There is an agenda beyond the minor 8-year max term limit for any single president. If Romney wins, would you single him out as well? This has been going on since the creation of the CIA back in 1947 when the veil of our "national security state" dropped over this nation and the world. Since then, other more clandestine organizations have come to visibility: the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergs (yes, they are *real*), the Grove (yes, they are *real*), and others. When most people who haven't researched these groups hear about them, they go into a preconditioned behavior pattern that causes them to laugh, mock, joke, disbelieve and roll their eyes before uttering something about "conspiracy theories."

It's not "Obama." It's not a single president. It's a grand wheel of secret organizations comprised of people with power, wealth and/or charisma that is ever turning. Look at the list of known attendees to the last meetings of any protested group including the ones mentioned above. Most, if not all, of them are the 1% that own 98% of the world's wealth. They are afraid that the masses who outnumber them will have a similar reaction as the French did a couple centuries ago when they heard the reply of "Let them eat cake."

edit on 11-7-2012 by GhostLancer because: Typo

Originally posted by Bilk22

Originally posted by GhostLancer
reply to post by Bilk22

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Your thread title is misleading, while partially true. This did not begin, nor will it end, with Obama. A more accurate title would have been "The US Government and the FBI want to spy on YOU." This situation is regardless of which president sits in the big chair. There is an agenda beyond the minor 8-year max term limit for any single president. If Romney wins, would you single him out as well? This has been going on since the creation of the CIA back in 1947 when the veil of our "national security state" dropped over this nation and the world. Since then, other more clandestine organizations have come to visibility: the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergs (yes, they are *real*), the Grove (yes, they are *real*), and others. When most people who haven't researched these groups hear about them, they go into a preconditioned behavior pattern that causes them to laugh, mock, joke, disbelieve and roll their eyes before uttering something about "conspiracy theories."

It's not "Obama." It's not a single president. It's a grand wheel of secret organizations comprised of people with power, wealth and/or charisma that is ever turning. Look at the list of known attendees to the last meetings of any protested group including the ones mentioned above. Most, if not all, of them are the 1% that own 98% of the world's wealth. They are afraid that the masses who outnumber them will have a similar reaction as the French did a couple centuries ago when they heard the reply of "Let them eat cake."

edit on 11-7-2012 by GhostLancer because: Typo

Won't dispute what you're saying. However Mr. Obama did run on change and transparency. He's been everything but. This legislation represents something much different than the platform he ran upon.

Nobody will be watching me in my living room... I'm not even worried about it. But if it happens, I dont care, let them watch me. They might learn something

We have plenty of privacy. I dont see how any of this can negatively effect peoples lives, unless your some kinda terrorists plotting on something....

Originally posted by Bilk22

Originally posted by GhostLancer
reply to post by Bilk22

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Your thread title is misleading, while partially true. This did not begin, nor will it end, with Obama. A more accurate title would have been "The US Government and the FBI want to spy on YOU." This situation is regardless of which president sits in the big chair. There is an agenda beyond the minor 8-year max term limit for any single president. If Romney wins, would you single him out as well? This has been going on since the creation of the CIA back in 1947 when the veil of our "national security state" dropped over this nation and the world. Since then, other more clandestine organizations have come to visibility: the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergs (yes, they are *real*), the Grove (yes, they are *real*), and others. When most people who haven't researched these groups hear about them, they go into a preconditioned behavior pattern that causes them to laugh, mock, joke, disbelieve and roll their eyes before uttering something about "conspiracy theories."

It's not "Obama." It's not a single president. It's a grand wheel of secret organizations comprised of people with power, wealth and/or charisma that is ever turning. Look at the list of known attendees to the last meetings of any protested group including the ones mentioned above. Most, if not all, of them are the 1% that own 98% of the world's wealth. They are afraid that the masses who outnumber them will have a similar reaction as the French did a couple centuries ago when they heard the reply of "Let them eat cake."

edit on 11-7-2012 by GhostLancer because: Typo

Won't dispute what you're saying. However Mr. Obama did run on change and transparency. He's been everything but. This legislation represents something much different than the platform he ran upon.

Originally posted by TechVampyre
reply to post by dayve

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Nobody will be watching me in my living room... I'm not even worried about it. But if it happens, I dont care, let them watch me. They might learn something

We have plenty of privacy. I dont see how any of this can negatively effect peoples lives, unless your some kinda terrorists plotting on something....

Wow.. What a sad misplaced display of faith you have in our government.. Obviously you are not educated in the way this works.. Less privacy, means LESS RIGHTS! And i don't know about YOU, but this is not the America i was born into and promised..

Originally posted by dayve

Originally posted by TechVampyre
reply to post by dayve

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Nobody will be watching me in my living room... I'm not even worried about it. But if it happens, I dont care, let them watch me. They might learn something

We have plenty of privacy. I dont see how any of this can negatively effect peoples lives, unless your some kinda terrorists plotting on something....

Wow.. What a sad misplaced display of faith you have in our government.. Obviously you are not educated in the way this works.. Less privacy, means LESS RIGHTS! And i don't know about YOU, but this is not the America i was born into and promised..

I know how it works, and it does not bother me one bit... I still do what i want