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Ex-US commander McChrystal calls for reviving draft
WASHINGTON — The former US commander in Afghanistan, Stanley McChrystal, has urged that the draft be reinstated to spread the burden of fighting and to instill a sense of shared civic duty among young Americans.
The country’s all-volunteer force has performed with great skill but after more than a decade of war “we’re running very, very hard and at a certain point you can’t expect it to go forever,” McChrystal said at a conference last month.
Apart from the strain on troops and their families after repeated deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, only a small fraction of the population was affected by the conflicts, the general said.
A Proposal to Bring Back the Draft
I am a Vietnam veteran who served as an officer in the Navy from 1968 to 1973, during the period of national upheaval caused by our drawn-out foreign engagement. By contrast, consider the relative passivity of the nation during the past decade of our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. I believe that this is directly related to the lack of a draft.
Mr. Ricks agrees with Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal that a draft might make Americans think more carefully before going to war.
That’s exactly right. It might also make Americans more vocal in their opposition to having mistakenly gone to war.
What Would You Do If The Draft Was Reinstated
Originally posted by HawkeyeNation
About god damn time...I only say that because they wouldn't have a need for my old ass, lol. At least I hope not...# I'm 33 yo. I've been saying this for quite some time though...we need to start enlisting prisoners. We have an overload in our prison system so one way to alleviate this issue it to make those who have 5 or more years in prison to do their sentence for the US gov't. Obviously certain stipulations need to be placed like murderers would still need to rot in jail. Not only can they assist their country but we can in turn have a valid attempt at rebuilding their lives.
Question: What is the maximum age to enlist in the Military?
Answer: The maximum age of non-prior service enlistment, under federal law used to be age 35. In 2006 the Army tried to convinced Congress to change this to age 44. Congress thought age 44 was too high, but raised the maximum enlistment age, under law, from 35 to age 42.
Regardless of federal law, the military services are allowed to impose more strict standards -- and many of them have. The maximum age for non-prior service enlistments for each of the services are:
•Active duty Army - 42
•Army Reserves - 42
•Army Natinal Guard - 42
•Active duty Air Force - 27
•Air Force Reserve - 34
•Air National guard - 34
•Active duty Navy - 34
•Navy Reserves - 39
•Active duty Marines - 28
•Marine Corps Reserves - 29
•Active duty Coast Guard - 27
•Coast Guard Reserves - 27
Originally posted by HawkeyeNation
We have an overload in our prison system so one way to alleviate this issue it to make those who have 5 or more years in prison to do their sentence for the US gov't. Not only can they assist their country but we can in turn have a valid attempt at rebuilding their lives.
Originally posted by HawkeyeNation
Prisoners ...... Not only can they assist their country but we can in turn have a valid attempt at rebuilding their lives.
Originally posted by HawkeyeNation
About god damn time...I only say that because they wouldn't have a need for my old ass, lol. At least I hope not...# I'm 33 yo. I've been saying this for quite some time though...we need to start enlisting prisoners. We have an overload in our prison system so one way to alleviate this issue it to make those who have 5 or more years in prison to do their sentence for the US gov't. Obviously certain stipulations need to be placed like murderers would still need to rot in jail. Not only can they assist their country but we can in turn have a valid attempt at rebuilding their lives.
Originally posted by Nspekta
Thoughts?!
from his highly sanitized bio at wiki en.wikipedia.org...
As head of what Newsweek termed "the most secretive force in the U.S. military", McChrystal maintained a very low profile until June 2006, when his forces were responsible for the death of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, leader of Al-Qaeda in Iraq.[17] After McChrystal's team successfully located Zarqawi and called in the airstrike that killed him, McChrystal accompanied his men to the bombed-out hut near Baqubah to personally identify the body.[20]
McChrystal's Zarqawi unit, Task Force 6-26, became well known for its interrogation methods, particularly at Camp Nama, where it was accused of abusing detainees. After the Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse scandal became public in April 2004, 34 members of the task force were disciplined.[7][21][22]
McChrystal was also criticized for his role in the aftermath of the 2004 death by friendly fire of Ranger and former professional football player Pat Tillman. Within a day of Tillman's death, McChrystal was notified that Tillman was a victim of friendly fire. Shortly thereafter, McChrystal was put in charge of paperwork to award Tillman a posthumous Silver Star for valor. On April 28, 2004, six days after Tillman's death, McChrystal approved a final draft of the Silver Star recommendation and submitted it to the acting Secretary of the Army, even though the medal recommendation deliberately omitted any mention of friendly fire, included the phrase "in the line of devastating enemy fire", and was accompanied by fabricated witness statements. On April 29, McChrystal sent an urgent memo warning White House speechwriters not to quote the medal recommendation in any statements they wrote for President Bush because it "might cause public embarrassment if the circumstances of Corporal Tillman's death become public." McChrystal was one of the first to caution restraint in public statements, until the investigation was complete.[23] McChrystal was one of eight officers recommended for discipline by a subsequent Pentagon investigation but the Army declined to take action against him.[7][24][25][26]
Originally posted by jcarpenter
Originally posted by HawkeyeNation
Prisoners ...... Not only can they assist their country but we can in turn have a valid attempt at rebuilding their lives.
So .... prisoners can "assist" the criminal trash in Washington kidnapping, torturing, murdering and looting people in foreign lands? And this is supposed to rehabilitate them?
How about a better idea?
I propose this gangster government quit trafficking guns, narcotics and nuclear materials, quit overthrowing governments and murdering their citizens and quit putting our citizens in jail for victimless "crimes". The result would be far less prisoners here and far less troops necessary in the military.
Originally posted by indisputable
Unless it was a direct threat an enemy troops were on your soil a draft would never work on people today. No matter the lies an how they spin it. A war on a foreign land is not a war for the invaders only the invaded
Originally posted by Nspekta
Originally posted by jcarpenter
Originally posted by HawkeyeNation
Prisoners ...... Not only can they assist their country but we can in turn have a valid attempt at rebuilding their lives.
So .... prisoners can "assist" the criminal trash in Washington kidnapping, torturing, murdering and looting people in foreign lands? And this is supposed to rehabilitate them?
How about a better idea?
I propose this gangster government quit trafficking guns, narcotics and nuclear materials, quit overthrowing governments and murdering their citizens and quit putting our citizens in jail for victimless "crimes". The result would be far less prisoners here and far less troops necessary in the military.
Well said,
So,
What would you do if the draft was reinstated and you got a draft notice in the mail tomorrow?!