How Many Checkpoints in One Morning?! Welcome to the Police State!

Is he the one who got tasered by the border patrol that one time?

I still remember the scream as it hit him. *shudders*

But yeah, he's a complete douche and a bigot, so it destroys any and all credibility he should be getting for these rather brave actions.

Why can't we get some decent, upstanding citizens carrying out these campaigns to raise awareness?

In the nicest possible way, grow a pair, you decent upstanding folk of America. We need to see this sort of thing, without the bigotry and hatred as an unwelcome subtext.

reply to post by DeathShield


You do not have the right to "give" others rights.

All I see here is more fear, more hyperbole and I'm sure that somewhere, someone is getting off to this fear porn.

reply to post by The Sword


First off, the sword freaking rules. If you like them check out Torche's new album Harmonicraft

Secondly...

Dude, wait, what? When did i ever claim to have the ability to give anyone rights? That is not what i believe or profess at all. I made it very clear. I believe that our rights come directly from god NOT ME. If you do not believe the same way i do then i made it clear that you could think of your own individuals rights as being naturally imbued to you by the creator. I'm not the first to suggest this,Socrates ( do you believe in socrates?) made similar arguments. Unless you are trying to make this into some sort of argument about god. But i already listed an alternative source if you do not subscribe to belief in god .

I'll lay out my belief in a secular manner, hopefully it will help you understand why i believe the way i believe. I'm not here to argue about where these rights come from.

Life desires to LIVE and actively seeks preservation of itself therefore you have the natural-right to live and to defend yourself from myself or others.

Life expresses itself. It expresses itself via physical displays of information or via its own actions. If it's actions are harmful towards other life then it is the right of the opposing life-form to defend itself. We can go into finer and finer points but we will ultimately comeback to the same basic rights.


Again, i am proposing this from a secular perspective because i understand that not everyone believes in god. I am ok with your disbelief because i feel that is your right to disbelieve is god given. Again, if you do not believe in god you could say that i believe that it is your natural right to do so.


If you want to compound and argue against me citing church doctrine and scary chapters from the bible you will still get the same response from me. YOU ARE FREE. At least that is what i believe...other people...not so much. I am not them. I speak for myself and only for myself. And i will speak for others if they give me permission to do so.

No matter what any book, or person tells you, you have rights and no man , including myself can add to or take them away from you.


Why is that so hard to understand?

We need to keep tabs on illegal imigration

*more checkpoints*

Nazi police is asking for my ID

only follow that guys advice if your suicidal ... guards at checkpoints in police states have no qualms putting bullets in the heads of people idiotic enough to argue with them or try passing without papers ... in such places eyes and ears open ... mouth closed works far better for surviving ...

This guy's a freakin' hero in my book.

Edited to add: Ooops, didn't know about his anti- gay rants.

Originally posted by randomname
this proves that your freedoms aren't being taken away, the majority of citizens are giving them away.

this guy didn't and he went on his way.

it also shows that no matter how much they try to deceive you and try to make you think they are in control, in the end they have to abide by the constitution.

if you don't see them, there are people still fighting for your freedoms and making sure it is upheld.

they let him go because he passed the test and proved he was american by his actions.

edit on 10-7-2012 by randomname because: (no reason given)

No, they did not let him go because of his actions and replies. They let him go because they ran his license plates which proved him, a civilian, to be the owner of the vehicle and the picture matched the description. It was clearly stated in the second checkpoint that they were running his plates and I believe they did the same thing during the time he was speaking to the "supervisor" in the first checkpoint.

The choice of driving freely away without being stopped/checked out is gone either way you look at it.