Dark Knight:Lucifer Rises

Im an astrologer there is much going on here. We are in historic times, not much to compare it to in the history we know of.
We are at a cardinal square the last time we had a square sort of like this was the rise of Hitler.
The seeding times are the conjunction that was 1966, so that energy returns and we are never sure with uranus and pluto which way it will go. Previous square was rise of Hitler, and within days Churchill and FDR were inaugurated March of 33.
The real action is at the opposition, the King of France was executed, before that the King of England was executed in the previous cycle.
The elites have always used astrology they never stopped and won't stop because it works.

Uranus Pluto is explained this way.
Uranus in Aries is the peoples movement the radical, the revolutionary that clashes with Capricorn, the elites with Pluto there. Pluto is going to unmask them, Pluto entered Cap Jan 20, 2009 with Barack Obama, being their total puppet. Dark Knight, or Moorish King.
Now they expect us to rise up, they know we will which is why collecting guns is of primary concern, hence false flag on movie release so many take note.
The citadell is surrounded by a moat of smaller people but the outlanders who are the little people want in, if they think there is a chance to get in they are invested in the Citadell's survival, but IF they think they or their children will never get it they start banging and rocking the gates (French Revolution) and destroy it, that is Uranus in Aries, we now have more poverty in the USA than in the 60s. There is no way in, see Occupy Wall St.
This film says only the rich banker can save us, Bruce Wayne and Bane is the rugged outlander who is rocking the gates.
Soon we come to the dog days of summer which are very dangerous as they relate to Sirius the Dog Star, watch children at this time do not allow to play out alone.
This will heat up in 2013 and get violent right up to 2017 with the worst ending in 2015 and a whole new country will be born by 2020.

The shooter does not represent the outlander the Joker, he represents the police state. He is dressed as a SWAT and shoots the little people rocking the gates, he works for them as the police, CIA, FBI do.

Originally posted by choos


followed your links.. the guy says to leave civilisation by oct 28 2011 not sure why.. some sort of final blowout on that date or early 2012..

its currently mid 2012, nothing big has happened to warrant leaving civilisation on oct 2011..

I've read in another thread that it was admitted to be a hoax. I'm not sure about that...

As far as the date though, Oct 28th 2011 has some significance if you are following the mass arrests of bankers. I believe it has to do with the legal action, but I'm not sure...

reply to post by visualmiscreant


That is the date that some people think the Mayan Calendar
ended.

reply to post by 13th Zodiac


Good work man. Keep those eyes open and keep us updated, but keep your head low.

reply to post by 13th Zodiac


Read this article about freemasonry.

They are the anti-christ.

In fact , anti-christ is not something shouting I am anti-christ.

And that is how he rubs people's faith.

First , it is matter of beauty and curiosity. but then , it will be voices commanding or commenting.

There are some people who hear the wolves and hyenas shout.

But now that it is Ramazan , there are barriers they can't break through and they are houses to run into.

Keep your faith into your creator and who is blessing you. And see that every unholy and ugliness is from human beings , not from god.

God bless his believers. Wherever they are. Whenever they live.

reply to post by 13th Zodiac


What I wonder most is , what is the intention of this thread ?

Is it decoding the codes of arrival of anti-christ , or it is a warning.

BTW , Zodiac + 13 is the mark of Anti-christ.

reply to post by votan


But thats exactly how they control the mind of the masses One way is through economic deprivation. People will have nothing else in mind than earning a small living, to buy food, and to pay rent, entertainment, etc.

The perfect distraction, so the elites can do their affairs in peace People is driven crazy through this financial exploit. But also thank to their own nature of greed and ignorance. While people are dreaming the perfect life they crave, like in the movies, TV or magazines.

Money is the tool to control people, and brainwash too of course, and indulgement to make the people even more ignorant. But the thing the elites really want is to control our mind and harness our labour, and our creativity, and everything we can surender them, in return for some wothless banknote

reply to post by TWISTEDWORDS


Interesting, but to be honest, being nothing is sometimes not a so bad idea.

The rest sounds more like rubish to me, pardon There is no such as the almighty creator. There might be even no afterlife. What if this very present life is everything we got?

But of course, this is way to pesimistic stance. Since our life is powered by the very hope itself. But of course no one has any proof whatsoever about the afterlife Its a neither either position, no?

There is evil and there is good. There is dark and there is light. There is life and there is death. There is the Yin and there is the Yan. They are just mere concepts, friend Like the two poles of the clock battery. One extreme position automatically creates its opposite Its just natural. The thesis and the anti-thesis. Cheers.

Not too far off topic here, but has anyone else noticed that "BANE" is an amalgam of "BRUCE WAYNE"? B rucew A y NE.......... going bak to mirror images again, dark and light of the same side of the coin, type of thing, if anyone catches my drift?

reply to post by 13th Zodiac

Beliefs that in Blavatsky's words: “oppose the materialism of science and every dogmatic theology, especially the Christian, which the Chiefs of the Society regard as particularly pernicious.”

So where do I send the money order?

Originally posted by TechVampyre
And as for your main theory.. Lucious fox is no recent addition either my friend.. He first appeared in Batman #307 released (January 1979)..

So your going to tell me that this so called "Lucis Trust" has had a stake in batman since the late 70's ?

And wait... You expect me to believe it..

Okay..

edit on 9-7-2012 by TechVampyre because: gramma

Right on! Glad you pointed that out! I'm in full agreement with you on this.

Now for my comments on the whole OP premise... I don't think the theosophists were ever NWO types. They may see Lucifer as a good dude but that doesn't mean they saw him as Satan. I think they just projected good qualities to the character we call Lucifer and negated or rationalized the bad... just like any human has a sense of good--bad duality. Though, it's fun to call people sinister Satanists that want to takeover in a NWO coup (there is one going on but that's more factually done by multinational corporations in an almost fully legal manner... laws we allow). Though focusing on HBlavatsky and others is much more dramatic and doesn't actually do any real world good.

Also, there are at least seven orthodox ways to do "numerology" number meanings of letters/words. If you really want to make something equal a sinister or holy number, you can make it so. The math is always interesting... and fun but cannot IMHO be taken seriously. Unfortunately, people will latch on to the outright coincidence that someone can make two words equal 666 with funny numerical methods. No offense against the OP, because that's just how the jig works. It's fun and can sometimes bring surprise insights into otherwise overlooked subjects... but I don't see it hitting the mark here with the giant conspiracy story presented.

Originally posted by Darth_Prime
Before we progress further,

are any of you actually in the Occult? or do you base the information off what you read on the Internet?

If you want to read about the Occult rather than believe the internet There are 2 books you should read the first is written by Occultist Aleister Crowley his BOOK 4 is how to access the Occult

Crowley was a freemason and rosicrucian and the guy who worked out how to access the occult through reading other books which are listed in book 4. the earliest occultist I have found so far that we all know is Nostradamus

Then read Paul Naudons book THE SECRET HISTORY OF FREEMASONARY this is a really interesting book going back to roman times and how he saw the document linking freemasonary to rosicrucianism 400 years ago.

reply to post by twoandthree


well the hebrew language was also able to be written numerically so why not the english alphabet? because they haven't told you.

The illuminati use numerology in their worship of the anti-christ this is a fact whether you want to believe it or not the numbers mean something else though as if its a guide for us to work out.

0 = empty
1 = soul ?
2 = heart and soul?
3 = half a man
4 = devil or anti-christ
5 = birth or death
6 = man
7 = 7 ages?
8 = infinty
9 = angel
10 = god

Im not sure what 1,2 and 7 are yet but its as if the illuminati are here to show us the way and if you work it out then maybe you progress but the message is you don't do to others what you don't want done to yourself

what way do you want to go

reply to post by DarkKnight21


Actually I would disagree.

First, the town AURORA it means THE DAWN.
The shooter proverbial "killed" the Dawn (the Light) at the showing of DARK KNIGHT (night) Rising.

The theater was #9 which is a significant Occult number. It was used in 9/11. It is a number that represents the EGO.

Also, I do believe that the date does correspond to some Dark Occult (Satanic) ritual date of sacrifice.

I am sure more details have come out.

Also, there is some talk about the perpetrator possibly being under some sort of mind control.

reply to post by hidden0


It is not that you need to "Believe" in Occultism. The Occult merely means HIDDEN KNOWLEDGE. The knowledge is out there, probably more than ever currently and could be accessed. Occult does NOT imply EVIL at all (although it has been twisted to imply that).

You can go on Amazon and find many quality texts on ancient Occult-ed information.

I would direct folks to an excellent podcast WHAT ON EARTH IS HAPPENING by Mark Passio. The man is an incredible store of information and presents the material of what is currently going on in a very informative and balanced manner.



whatonearthishappening.com...

Originally posted by zeeon
I have some experience in the occult. I worked up to the third degree practitioner in gardenian witchcraft when I was younger. Since moved to Methodism in my age, but used to be very active years ago.

While craft isn't the same as the proposed "Luciferian" occultism we're talking about here, there are some similarities. For instance, both highly value dates and times during rituals. Solstices and seasonal dates are especially important. Also, both believe in three forms of "Power" - you have divine, elemental (ie, natural) and folk (or personal) types. During my time practicing, the strangest things I witnessed were when we utilized folk "energy."

Anyway, point being is that during rituals, the more people you have, the more "power" is at hand. Most occultism believes this. To have millions of people all focused on the same thing (a huge movie) that you could potentially craft a ritual around provides a tremendous amount of this "energy." Also of note is the time of the release across north america. The "Witching Hour" is usually the hour after midnight, and the shootings occurred at 12:30. This is significant.

I know this sounds crazy - I'm an Information Security IT professional - but there are things I experienced working with Garderner's form of witchcraft when I younger that I simply cannot explain.

Also, numerology is pretty important in the craft. Numbers, times, dates hold extra meaning in some circumstances and certainly there is belief that when you add certain numbers together and they equal something else that is of significance to the practitioner it is important to include in the ritual.

Exactly,
People that merely 'debunk" the theories as just being made up do not understand how people who believe and practice these things work. It doesn't honestly matter if YOU don't believe that these numbers have significance or meaning but the people who are planning these things DO and what they DO CAN and will harm you if you are not awake.

I always find it amusing that debunkers just poo poo everything and then storm off as though they are so much smarter than everyone else. They constantly employ Ad Hominum attacks and ridicule fallacies in an attempt to disarm their opponent. Rarely do I hear a succinct argument from them. Just mocking and derision.

Pluto the lord of the underworld is where all riches lie, and all power resides.
When Pluto enters a sign at FIRST it gives great power to that area of life, but only at first.
Pluto in Capricorn will expose who control the world, it entered Jan 20, 2009.
You can see the draconian laws past since then.
Pluto gives power then he undermines and unmasks them. Institutions that are sound, will survive, those
that are decaying and corrupt will fall never to rise again during the 240 yr cycle.
Pluto is very frightening, he comes up to earth with a stealth and lethal energy.
One can feel his presence in the room, the chill in the air, the knowing but not seeing.

That's whats going on, we past the first seven degrees now watch the unmasking and ultimate cleansing which will be as violent as a forest fire. Then after the charred earth comes the tears, Neptune home in Pisces will wash all the debris Pluto has spewed.
The sun comes out and small trees begin to sprout through the ashes, a whole new world.

Take care, be careful and trust this divine process.

The conjunction of Sirius and the Sun does not occur at the same time in all latitudes, and is not constant in the same region for a long period, hence the variation in calendars regarding the limits of the Dog Days. Some say the period of the dog days lasts 20 days before and after the conjunction of Sirius and the Sun.

In 2012 in the Pacific Time Zone, Sirius rises before the Sun on the last day of July, but remains hidden in its glare. When Sirius rises above the Sun at an altitude of 7 degrees it can be seen. This heliacal rising of Sirius occurs August 7, 2012 in San Francisco.

Sirius resides in Leo which rules children.
Please watch your children at this time, now to September.

reply to post by Wheelindiehl


Do you think maybe because his name is John Holmes, maybe he tried dating, chicks accepted because, hey! John Holmes! But the, " Dates. " Did not work out because he couldn't, erm, exactly live up to ' Just ' a name..or a Porn Stars name, " John Holmes? " you have a 28 year old guy that goes into a movie where he knows there will be couples. Did he have a girlfriend even? Sounds off topic I know, does not sound like such a conspiracy put like this but I have actually known, up close & personal, as in the guy was my baby sitter for me when I was a child, a man who was a serial killer AND it began when he was 12 years old!!! He began baby sitting me shortly there after...he used to buy me gifts, clean the house even cleaner that it already was for my Mother, said I was the only person who counted as a Sister to him.
I had heard so many stories of him doing outrageous things that was put down to youth. Except, when I was walking home from School, and it would already was beginning to turn dark, he often picked me up along the way, as it was a very long walk especially in -43 *C weather.
Yet, only once, he picked up a friend of mine walking to my house. It was summer. He took her on a dangerous and scary ride, before dropping her off where he had picked her up from to begin with, leaving her with the message, " Never ever accept rides from ANYONE you don't know I hope this helps you understand that but probably not. You're the type of girl that will grow up accepting all sorts of things besides rides from strangers. Have a nice walk and enjoy your visit. "
She arrived at my place in such a terrified state, my Mother had to call her parents of whom had to take her to the hospital where she was treated for panic AND shock.
Either she did not tell us everything he said or everything about the ride to be in that state.
But none of us had an easy time believing her. Sadly. She IS a messed up adult. And not from the ride with the guy who turned out being a serial killer.
Just before my ex-husband and I married, we stopped at a gas station, I remained in the car. My fiance came out from the garage, where he'd paid for the gas, shaking and white as a ghost. He said, " ( Name ) told me, that if I marry you, that if he heard I or saw me treating you bad, he will kill me."
I was only 15 and did not believe my ex husband whatsoever. I said, " Oh, he's probably just teasing you, was he alone or with anyone? Well there you go, probably got high or has been drinking with his buds. He was only teasing you, he would never say anything like that & mean it."
I was wrong. He meant every word.
( Name ) committed suicide before our divorce.But he NEVER spent more than 2 years in ANY Jail.
I am usually a good judge of character. Kind of like having a sensor. Yet even at the age 15, and by that time married, living 19 hours away from home, when my parents called me to tell me that he murdered 1 of my friends
I know it was bad of me not to believe my own parents about what they saw and heard from this man's own mouth, or what was heard later. But my parents would not have believed it either had they not see with their own eyes and heard him with their own ears.
He had every business in town ready to blow at the press of a button My Parents business included. But my parents had taken a short trip out of town and I did not live there anymore. Which was not the case for all the other businesses. Back then, everyone literally live in their place of business or had homes added to their business. It took a long time for the bomb squad to undo his bomb rig. It only needed 1 button pressed.
He was to serve 7 years for 2 murders and the bombing attempt. That's it. He was out in 2 years...not even on parole that 1st time. He went into the bar & shot a 18 year old female friend of mine.
There were a lot more, each one more brutal that the previous All women after the initial 2 males Last one known of, was his GF at the time. he totally mutilated her. She used to baby sit me too. But he did this only 3 days after helping me with my parent's big 25th. Jail time, 2.5 years. He married a woman from a female Jail, has 2 children, but this time after running into my aunt, the woman he'd always loved but was never available to him, rather than kill anymore women, or men, he committed suicide.
Yet, even though I saw on him where snipers had shot off his thumb and trigger finger, and his one earlobe, it was/and is still so hard for me to believe. He continued to visit me. I'd dream of him, next day he'd be there. No one knows exactly why he did all this even yet. Nor how it was like he was 2 very different people. I only saw the nice 1. You never really know who will do it, or why. Maybe he read Batman a lot...But i never saw him angry or even sad. Just happy Eyes sparlked.