Did you know this?

He fought against the War Machine by putting his people first. The only time he got on the radar was when he refused US dollars and wanted gold for oil instead. But TPTB told him that he had to accept worthless paper.

And then they killed him.

Within days...the banks came in with no vote or even permission from the people that were born and raised on that soil.

This is what the Western people cheered for? Should be a message to all but sadly the kool-aid program was effective.

Peace

That excuse of governments using force against it's people so we have to overthrow their regimes is getting really old. At least to me. Guess what? That's the current propaganda the United States' media is using on Syria. I'm sure they'll use it again on the next country to be violated and the next after that. Why does our current military perpetuate this cycle? I guess their freewill is beaten out of them. Hopefully people can become more aware of the world around them. Maybe one day the U.S. can stop using force against it's own peaceful protestors. Hypocrisy in democracy. Well, a not so much true democracy ...

He had business dealings with the Rothschilds. He stepped on the wrong toes. These people don't break your legs. They have NATO bomb the hell out of your country and send in the semi conscious liberation army to shove a steak knife into your bum.

Qadaffi was a POS no matter what good deeds he did to cover himself. But there can be only one beast and all of the little beasts get taken out sooner or later..

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Talk about taking the classic Western "evil dictator" bait!

Oh yes, it's perfectly fine for America to kill its' own people, send its' stupid underachievers off to war and force Americans to work as serfs.

But, when another country does it?

It's WRONG! They must be STOPPED! BOMB 'EM!

That's the rhetoric I see on here and it's no different from the mainstream.

Put your thinking caps on people!

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I do this all the time. I'm not singling you out. But, please do not say "we can't even figure out"

because the biggest problem is that the majority of people will not even recognize a problem in the first place. Certainly not all of us are part of that problem. We who try to stay 'in the know' cannot do much alone while the rest not only pretend the problem isn't there, but blame us for admitting there is one. I'm very very sure there are very capable minds who could within a week plan up at least a very stable form of government that works in our favor. If we did that, we would become an enemy of the power players. The whole lot here and in the UK and maybe other places would all have to be shut down at roughly the same time or else, we'd be attacked.

Even if we did that, the US is not an island (figuratively). What happened to Libya could easily happen to us once the UnFederal Reserve was taken away. Would our military stay the same? How would we handle that, and who is going to stop us from being overwhelmed once we try to lower our defenses? The US government members are kinda of hated in certain parts for good reasons. I say we ship them all to the a tiny island and let them play real world Survivor.

Congrats ,you found out what the benefits are of being an oil rich nation. Black Gold. People think countries in the middle east are poor. Wrong.

Originally posted by cenpuppie
I believe it, all of it. I remember seeing the video of him holdin it down before he was assassinated by the West (yea, i went there).

He was crowned King of Kings by the Africans. AND ya man was the leader of the UN at one point. Gaddafi knew the deal because he had to fight and claw his way to where he was, he wasn't want going to make the same mistake that was made in the West, his Green Book, which is a great read btw.

But him.. it's why it will all fall down. Just wait and see. Once those Libyans get pissed, it's a wrap. And they are stewin now.

I just found a link to The Green Book

Originally posted by milkyway12
Congrats ,you found out what the benefits are of being an oil rich nation. Black Gold. People think countries in the middle east are poor. Wrong.

But it does seem that he shared the wealth, unlike some that we could all mention

Nothing is free, ever.
So is this your support for full blown socialist dictatorship>? No thanks.

Originally posted by PatriotAct
Guess what? That's the current propaganda the United States' media is using on Syria.

I wonder what the REAL truth looks like?
We are so easily fooled.

Originally posted by HamrHeed
Nothing is free, ever.
So is this your support for full blown socialist dictatorship>? No thanks.

So what would you prefer, full blown tyranical dictatorship?

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I love your avatar , though its a little suggestive of a rebelious nature, please submit yourself for re-education programming.

Originally posted by VoidHawk

Originally posted by HamrHeed
Nothing is free, ever.
So is this your support for full blown socialist dictatorship>? No thanks.

So what would you prefer, full blown tyranical dictatorship?

Not at all but maybe you do. The last thing we need is a socialist world dictatorship which is what some people want these days. Government isn't efficient enough to handle everything and it always ends up taking away rights or ignoring them, not preserving them.

Originally posted by HamrHeed

Originally posted by VoidHawk

Originally posted by HamrHeed
Nothing is free, ever.
So is this your support for full blown socialist dictatorship>? No thanks.

So what would you prefer, full blown tyranical dictatorship?

Not at all but maybe you do. The last thing we need is a socialist world dictatorship which is what some people want these days. Government isn't efficient enough to handle everything and it always ends up taking away rights or ignoring them, not preserving them.

Think we got crossed wires Was Gaddafi planning world domination?

Originally posted by HamrHeed

Originally posted by VoidHawk

Originally posted by HamrHeed
Nothing is free, ever.
So is this your support for full blown socialist dictatorship>? No thanks.

So what would you prefer, full blown tyranical dictatorship?

Not at all but maybe you do. The last thing we need is a socialist world dictatorship which is what some people want these days. Government isn't efficient enough to handle everything and it always ends up taking away rights or ignoring them, not preserving them.

Is it really that hard to figure out?

Check this; Even IF he was a dictator, at least it was an alternative to the rest of the world. What would you like to see, capitalist democracy in EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY on the planet??? I want countries with pure liberalism, countries with socialism, countries with communism, capitalism, mixes of everything, anarchy, you name it, so people have CHOICES.

You might not like a socialist state, but you don't have to either IF we could have a little bit of everything instead of a one size fits all like we're going to now.

I don't want socialism either, but I don't live in Libya so who the F*CK am I or are you to say they can't have it?????

Go back to believing whatever system you think works best, and continue ignoring other people might not share your vision and would like to choose instead of be dictated by YOU. You complain about people deciding how others should live, but you seem to be wanting to do the exact same thing, hilarious.

Originally posted by ThisIsNotReality

Originally posted by HamrHeed

Originally posted by VoidHawk

Originally posted by HamrHeed
Nothing is free, ever.
So is this your support for full blown socialist dictatorship>? No thanks.

So what would you prefer, full blown tyranical dictatorship?

Not at all but maybe you do. The last thing we need is a socialist world dictatorship which is what some people want these days. Government isn't efficient enough to handle everything and it always ends up taking away rights or ignoring them, not preserving them.

Is it really that hard to figure out?

Check this; Even IF he was a dictator, at least it was an alternative to the rest of the world. What would you like to see, capitalist democracy in EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY on the planet??? I want countries with pure liberalism, countries with socialism, countries with communism, capitalism, mixes of everything, anarchy, you name it, so people have CHOICES.

You might not like a socialist state, but you don't have to either IF we could have a little bit of everything instead of a one size fits all like we're going to now.

I don't want socialism either, but I don't live in Libya so who the F*CK am I or are you to say they can't have it?????

Go back to believing whatever system you think works best, and continue ignoring other people might not share your vision and would like to choose instead of be dictated by YOU. You complain about people deciding how others should live, but you seem to be wanting to do the exact same thing, hilarious.

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We don't have capitalist democracies anyways so thats irrelevant. The same people who are pushing a one world socialist utopian dictatorship were supporting the unhorsing of gaddafi using the rebels. I just find that ironic,
And btw I live in a socialist country and I love it for now, but it's unsustainable. On a global level, it's suicidal but apparently it's being pushed heavily in the public school system and universities.
You will see- the UN seems to have alot of plans for the world and liberals are the foot soldiers. Piece by piece, they will try to legislate everything

I thought everybody knew this..

It really surprises me, how little that knows this...
It was even discussed before he died...

People really need to wake up, and not wake up to silly conspiracies that are so far fetched.

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There is a documentary called "Panama deception" . It can be found at Netflix. That documentary is a good example of what really happened then, and it shows how our media deceived the rest of the world, especially Americans. If you pay attention while watching it, you will also notice some of the descriptions of the new weapons they tested on the people. Knowing this happened back then, helps to put together the tactics that have been being used against any country that doesn't do what is demanded of them.

Originally posted by VoidHawk

Originally posted by stinkelbaum
anyone that gives a toss about foreign affairs would know that, you only woke up after watching a youtube video?
you should maybe get a book out how the french knocked the hell out of cambodians and vietnamese, how they rose up the french backed out and america got themselves in a war, read up man

We dont all have time to read books! And maybe I did find out AFTER you but I'm certain others knew before YOU DID!!

"you only woke up after watching a youtube vid" Not true. Did you only wake up after reading a book?

Glad you spoke up to reply to that ignorant comment, I was going to do it myself if you hadn't. I was shocked to see someone being called out for learning something new and then sharing their opinion on it. "deny ignorance?" - that guy is apparently a proponent of ignorance and would rather you not learn something if you didn't know it before he did.

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This is exactly why they wanted him gone! He knows who the Illuminati are and has been very outspoken about them all along. Have you ever noticed how when he addresses the UN, and articulates certain truths that many of the members smirk? Just like he states, There have been numerous wars since the formation of the UN, now why again was it created?