Originally posted by Vrill
Religion is a disease of the mind and you can't argue with a disease. If you point out the many flaws/evil statements in the bible, they'll claim
you're interpreting it wrong......if you point out the absurdity of "free will", and our ability to influence outcomes, in the context of "god's
plan", you'll get a lot of cognitive dissonance....
Hmm, I agree with Religion being a disease and it needs to be distinguished, but then you started referring to the Bible as if that was Religious? I
mean, I can say weapons are dangerous and should be all eliminated, and then start talking about hammers.. Sure, they can be misused, but that's NOT
it's intended purpose.
Here's a thought - maybe the "flaws" or "evil statements" in the Bible are actually.. misinterpreted? Did you think of that? I haven't found a
single flaw in the Bible, and I kind of make the Bible "my" business. So please share if you have some secret.
The absurdity of free will? You know, if you want to believe that we are all just the product of random molecular cells coming together by "chance"
(an absurdity in itself), and are simply random electrical occurrences in our brains, how can you trust your own thoughts? How can you trust at all?
How can you believe anything?
If you want to chase down other wild theories, such as our internal consciousness affecting an external source, try not to think about the possibility
that external forces are actually affecting our internal consciousness into believing we have some greater effect on our universe.
if you point out the science of evolution/physics, they'll merely claim those are god's tests (test for what?....god already knows what's
going to happen).
No, don't you dare make that claim. The ONLY people who make this stupid excuse is Sunday school teachers who are teaching
5 year olds at some crazy church that doesn't even believe that Jesus is the son of God.
Point out all the "science" of the religion of evolution you can. There's not a single case you can provide to prove 5 of the 6 theories of
Evolution (Cosmic, Chemical, Stellar, Organic, and Macro evolution), yet there are plenty of irrefutable cases of Micro-Evolution take place. Show me
some proof, tangible evidence, that ISN'T based on "a lot of time" or "by chance", because that is NOT science, it's faith
Epicurus said it best, "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is
malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?".
Said it best? It's set up. He questions something, implying he doesn't know the answer to it - and gives an answer? Biased much? Even still, the
correct would be He is able and willing. Yet, He chooses not to, because of.. you guessed it, free will. Why do you think He even put the tree of the
knowledge of Good and Evil in the garden of Eden and told Adam not to eat it? You don't think God KNEW Adam would eat of it? Read the next part for
the reason why.
But, the fact that someone can claim that we have "free will", yet also claim to be "god fearing" really underscores the level of cognitive
dissonance involved in religious ideology: We're free to choose what we want, but if that choice doesn't involve worshiping our master (without a
shred of tangible evidence), we'll be tortured in the most horrible way for eternity....seems legit.
The whole point of all of this is love, it is to perfect us, to mature us. God wanted a family, a perfect family, and so he created us, gave us life,
allowed us to have the ability to choose from right and wrong in hopes that we would choose right. Righteousness can only be obtained by those with
the ability to disobey.
And I just wanted to pull this part out..
(without a shred of tangible evidence)
Lol. Here's some ways to prove God-
- Two Witnesses (The Stars and the Great Pyramids), watch The Glory of the Stars and you'll see that the entire gospel has been written amongst our
stars. The Pyramids also tell a significant story. And the Bible mentions it - "the capstone the builders rejected" which is the missing capstone on
the Pyramid, which was never put on. Check out The Great Pyramid trilogy - Lost Legend of Enoch, Message from the Stars, and Gateway to the Galaxy.
- The Authenticity of the Bible, through prophecy or through the Great Flood. If it's accurate about the beginning, and of the past events, and of
future events, and not wrong ONCE, it's probably divinely inspired.
- Miracles/Prayer as well. Here's my mother's testimony here
, and this isn't the
only case. It's just mine. There are thousands and thousands out there like this.
It shouldn't even require more than common sense.
This world is designed, and if you don't think so, no one can help you.