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Originally posted by boymonkey74
I don't mind Religion as long as it isn't pushed down my throat, unfortunately it is, at work we have a Christian who is forever telling us that we will goto hell if we do not accept Jesus.
If she continues I will put a complaint in cos we are all pig sick of it.
Originally posted by knightsofcydonia
Ya thousands of years of biblical scholars studying religions in every part of the world....
And you are the one smart enough to debunk it and call it a disease.
This idea makes me question your ability to use sound judgment when analyzing evidence.
In other words, you sound like a moron. Do some research before forming such a strong opinion.
I personally find those who bash others beliefs quite repulsive.
Belief is a choice, and who's to say your reality is any more real than another's based on what they believe to be true. Believe what you want just don't impose it upon others. The ideas and concepts are already out there, you just have to be ready to receive them.
Also if ones motivation to believe in religion helps them become a better person and enjoy a more fulfilled life, why do you care? Mind your own business!
edit on 29-6-2012 by knightsofcydonia because: (no reason given)
So you are also saying those who analyze mythology are diseased as well as religious people. Well, one aspect of myths that cannot be denied is that they are ubiquitous across all countries and cultures. Every society has its own form of myths, and interestingly, often these different myths are re-tellings of central archetypal stories that are changed slightly to fit different cultures and experiences.
reply to post by Akragon
I would say religion can be defined as people taking advantage of the fact that people fear the unknown... God can be known... but one certianly can't know him while religion is leading your beliefs... What happens when the blind lead the blind?
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by Vrill
Im not sure if i would call it a disease...
I would say religion can be defined as people taking advantage of the fact that people fear the unknown...
God can be known... but one certianly can't know him while religion is leading your beliefs...
What happens when the blind lead the blind?
Religion is a visionary tool in regards to human development.
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
Originally posted by Vrill
Epicurus said it best, "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?".
That argument is pathetic and disgraceful.
Originally posted by gosseyn
I also think that religion is some kind of disease, a mental disease in our perceptual capabilities, in our ability to evaluate reality, and thus it influences every other decision we may take regarding any other topic. We start to have more of a tendency to accept any system of beliefs, be it in politics, economics, relationships, etc... Believe in your leader(s), believe in the current economic doctrine, you stop asking questions because you start to think that there is something unknowable that is working in the background in which all you can do is believe, have faith. You start to live in a magical world where things can or cannot happen just because it is possible to verbally voice it or phrase it, or even just imagine it. Some people say science and religion are compatible, I don't think so, they are not compatible in their premisses, and I am talking here about the scientific method, not what that or this scientist has said or done. In my opinion they are not even comparable, because the scientific method is, well, a method, a structure of learning, and religion is just content, with no real structure. The real problem is the dogma, something that never changes even if the context is completely different, the problem is "doing the same things over and over again and expecting a different result". Human beings are all about learning, all we do is learn, from birth (and even before birth, in the womb ..) to death, we learn from everything that we stumble on, and all those experiences are what make us who we are, how we see ourselves, others and the universe around us. In my opinion, religion is an infantile disease, in the sense that we are far less civilised or advanced than we think, we are a young species. We are a young species because we have so much unexploited potential, and that's how I define "young".
Originally posted by gosseyn
reply to post by Lionhearte
Why don't you start to prove with at least logical arguments that "good" and "evil" are absolute values or concepts that are independent from any context and any intention/subjectivity ?
Originally posted by sirhc0329
reply to post by Lionhearte
Right on, I hear you. Maybe what I meant to say is this. Jesus,isnt actually "God" correct? It is believed there is a being say one level higher right? Well, THAT guy is who I meant to say is the same in all religions. Basically, Im saying I believe there is only One God. One creator, no matter what book your reading about him/her in, its the same entity. Thats why I feel religous wars are redonk. Like the youtube video said "youre from one town over so I hate your guts" .... Complete non-sense to me.
Originally posted by Arles Morningside
Uh-oh Vrill, you said dem things which make the 'faithful' go ka-wazy.
For me, there is no doubt of the reality of what I like to call the 'Great Mystery'. As for matters of faith, I prefer intelligent faith rather than blind faith...but I especially love to be challenged, especially what I hold most true. I also greatly appreciate aggressive challenges. I think it is unfortunate that these types of threads are not so embraced simply because they are a direct challenge to what we would otherwise like to keep taking for granted. Everything should be questioned, and explored, even if at times in a manner that is vulger or what have you...if what we hold true cannot withstand such onslaughts, they are not worth our time.
I don't think the problem is so much religion as it is people. Religion can serve as a powerful tool in helping the Journeyer grow wings, but on the flip side, it can also clip their wings or it can be used as a powerful excuse to avoid growing wings altogether.
What hurts religion is our 'baggage', what we bring to the table. Religion should be a living force but we have gotten into the habit of keeping it frozen and stagnate. It's not that the truth changes but rather our understanding of it grows and should grow.edit on 29-6-2012 by Arles Morningside because: Because i'm tired and my poor typing skills are worse than usual.
The indoctrination practices of Christianity are indistinguishable from any other cult.