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Project Grudge Documents.Declassified USAF documents

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posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 03:09 PM
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Not really my sort of thing but i thought a few ATS'ers might find it intresting.


The Air Force Declassification Office is pleased to release records on Project Grudge, which was part of the Air Force effort to investigate Unidentified Flying Object reports starting in 1949. These documents contain reporting procedures, planned responses to press and public inquiry, and investigative reports conducted by the Air Force in early 1950.


AFD-110719-005.pdf

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Sorry did't find any evidence of aliens in the pdf but if there was it probably
would't get Declassified.
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posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 06:10 PM
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Thanks for posting this. I was wondering where the AF shared their documents- not much to see.
In the first document you linked, there's an interesting comment about the UFO applications for counterintelligence, and a mention of the OSI. Similar comments have been found in other documents. What sort of spy games were they playing using flying saucers?



posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 08:14 PM
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S&F! I love early the military documentation of U.F.O's. The early stuff, around the 1950's, not only provides insight into the methods our government and the military utilized to describe and catalog unidentified flying objects, but it also gives us a glimpse into Cold War history, particularly its beginnings. For me, it's a time of nostalgia and romance. A time when our enemies were clear and our government had its people's best interest in the forefront. Or so we believed. Little did we know it was the beginning of the end for all things good in this nation. More than likely, it was the fear and paranoia during this period that brought forth the major governmental and military problems we have today.

On a side note, let's say the government, the CIA/NSA, and the military had enough foresight from the 1947 Roswell incident to perpetuate a lie so intricately astute and psychological as the UFO phenomena. That would be amazing. I'm not sure they could "pull it off." Along the same vein, now that the American public knows, as well as the CIA admitting that it used the UFO phenomena as a cover for black budget advanced top secret aeronautical R&D, now that this has been exposed, what will the government use as a cover for these secret aircraft. Conversely, now that CIA no longer needs the Soviet Union to believe that some of our secret aircraft are UFO's, what's next? Maybe the UFO phenomena has outlived its use; it served its purpose. Anyone think about that question or its implications? Kinda bums me out!



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 01:10 AM
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I'm surprised that the files have gained so little interest around here. If people give them a chance, they'll find some barely known cases in them that came before all the craziness. Project Grudge Status Report #1 has the original Lubbock Lights report and several more of interest.

In 1951, an object was sighted that resulted in 4 F-86 jets being scrambled from March AFB. By the time they got to an altitude of 43000ft, the object had moved and was now flying around the skies above the AFB. They described it as a 'swept-wing' craft. Although Ken Arnold reported objects of a similar shape, it's tempting to put it down to secret technology...



On the other hand, this sighting involved a similar craft. In this report, the object flew at a low altitude and silently. 900 feet away in silence is quite a feat.





The Grudge reports run from 1 to 14 (omitting 13) and had become part of Project Blue Book by 9th April 1952 (Report '5 headed by Ruppelt)

It often goes that Arnold supposedly saw *saucers* and from then on people panicked and either made-up or imagined *saucers* for the next few years. In those early days, people were reporting a variety of shapes and some included rather conventional designs with unconventional flight characteristics (speed, manoeuvres, sound). For me, it's all quite interesting.



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 09:39 AM
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The Lubbock Lights have always been a favorite case of mine.

The Project Grudge reports seem to have either led to a path of disinformation or a path of disclosure, with the whole story behind the missing Grudge 13 report. Very interesting.



A series of PROJECT GRUDGE/BLUE BOOK reports have been released over the years in connection with the USAF's investigation into UFO's which was supposedly terminated with the release of the Condon report in the late 1960's. Reports 1 through twelve of GRUDGE/BLUE BOOK were generally innocuous and contained no classified or truly sensitive material. There was a final report, #14 which was widely circulated and about which an entire book was written: FLYING SAUCERS: AN ANALYSIS OF THE AIR FORCE PROJECT BLUE BOOK SPECIAL REPORT NO. 14 by Leon Davidson: the fifth edition was published in 1976 by Blue-Book Publishers; 64 Prospect St., White Plains, New York 10606. Missing from public view, however, was report #13.

Several years ago, Bill English, son of an Arizona state legislator and former captain in the Green Berets had been assigned to an RAF 'listening post' north of London as an information analyst. English was, in the course of his duties, asked to prepare an analysis of the elusive GRUDGE 13 report. On his discharge from his work at the 'listening post' he returned to the United States and began to do a little UFO research on his own. English had been no stranger to the UFO phenomenon. In Viet Nam he was a member of a Special Forces investigative team that went in to retrieve a B-52 that was forced down by a UFO and all the occupants killed. Communications had been received from the B-52 before it went down to the effect that it was "...under attack by a UFO..", A "...large light...". The plane was found intact, sitting in the jungle. There was no swath indicative of a crash landing. Only the bottom of the fuselage showed any damage, there was no damage to the underside of the engine pods. Although the plane was completely intact the entire crew had been mutilated.

English, through contacts he still maintains has determined that the US Government 'most definitely' supports a 'project dealing specifically with UFO's and captured aliens'. According to what he has learned, the US government captured a trio of aliens, and that as of mid 1981, one of the beings was still alive in captivity. English also claims that "at one point in the early 1950's until the mid 1960's the Air Force maintained relocation and debriefing colonies for people who had experienced close encounters of the 3rd and 4th kind. They were isolated for all intents and purposes for the rest of their lives. He doubts that these colonies are still in existence.

English dictated 2 audio cassettes outlining what he remembered from the Grudge 13 report. These audio cassettes were transcribed into hand written notes by another person. The information contained therein indicated what had been suspected all along: that the US government was involved in the greatest deception in the history of mankind and that not only did flying saucers exist but that the government had several in secret storage and had captured at least 3 live aliens.
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posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 11:25 AM
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It's interesting to note the differences in attitudes and methodology between Projects Sign & Grudge. It seems there were significant philosophical differences between the two. While Project Sign (for some) perhaps was biased towards the explanation that UFO's might indeed be from outer space, Project Grudge erred significantly on the side that all UFO's had terrestrial explanations.



posted on Jun, 30 2012 @ 09:22 PM
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Thanks for your contribution, buddy! Interesting thing, I see a few pages into that first link we have a memo stating:


It is requested that action be taken to destroy all copies of Top Secret Air Force Intelligence Report "100-203-79", subject, "Analysis of Flying Object Incidents in the U.S.


Apparently they didn't get around to destroying ALL copies of it, because you can find it here.

Here's an excerpt from the conclusions:


11. SINCE the Air Force is responsible for control of the air in the defense of the U.S., it is imperative that all other agencies cooperate in confirming or denying the possibility that these objects have a domestic origin. Otherwise, if it is firmly indicated that there is no domestic explanation, the objects are a threat and warrant more active efforts of identification and interception.

12.IT MUST be accepted that some type of flying objects have been observed, although their identification and origin are not discernable. In the interest of national defense it would be unwise to overlook the possibility that some of these objects may be of foreign origin.



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 08:27 PM
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Also, on page 13 of the OP's first link we find:



In other words, whatever the details of the incident are, tell the press there is "nothing of value" in it. Furthermore, if the incidents "contain information of any technical intelligence value" (ie. if the object reported appears to be any kind of non-domestic technology - for instance, an unidentified flying object that seems to be under intelligent control but is not ours), DO NOT RELEASE THIS INFORMATION.

Hmm...so if you DO find anything of interest - strike that - ESPECIALLY if you find anything of interest, whatever you do, keep this information away from the public. Got that?




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posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 08:42 PM
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Yeah I think Grudge was one of the worst projects as far as I remember, a serious attempt by the military industrial complex to discredit the whole thing. It's probably not far off being as bad as the sham that was the Condon Report.

There's even rumours that "Grudge" had its own negative meanings to those in the know, but I've no idea of how true or not that is. That's probably why this might not mean that much to those that have already done enough research in this area.
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posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by Orkojoker

Also, on page 13 of the OP's first link we find:



In other words, whatever the details of the incident are, tell the press there is "nothing of value" in it. Furthermore, if the incidents "contain information of any technical intelligence value" (ie. if the object reported appears to be any kind of non-domestic technology - for instance, an unidentified flying object that seems to be under intelligent control but is not ours), DO NOT RELEASE THIS INFORMATION.

Hmm...so if you DO find anything of interest - strike that - ESPECIALLY if you find anything of interest, whatever you do, keep this information away from the public. Got that?



Yes, got that Orkojoker
-pretty cut and dried 'policy' when you think about it, even Bluebook's Chief Scientific advisor had something to say about it:



"Whenever a case happened that they coud explain--which was quite a few--they made a point of that, and let that out to the media. . .Cases that were very difficult to explain, they would jump handsprings to keep the media away from them. They had a job to do, rightfully or wrongfully, to keep the public from getting excited."

Dr. J. Allen Hynek, former Chairman of the Dept. of Astronomy at North Western University and scientific advisor to Project Bluebook from 1952-1969



It may not be from Grudge but here's another early document (1953) focusing on the strategy for 'explaining' UFOs to the public and 'working' with the media:



Title: RE: concerning the "Unidentified Flying Object Program"

To: Brigadier General W. M. Burgess, USAF Air Defense Command

Author: Colonel George E. Perry, USAF, Directorate of Intelligence.

Date: 23 December 23, 1953

Classification: CONFIDENTIAL




"...for those times where the object is not explainable, it would be well to advise your people to say something on this order. "The information on this sighting will be analyzed by the Air Technical Intelligence Center at Dayton, Ohio," and leave it at that..."


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There's also this CIA document from late 1952 which deals with the 'creation of the correction of public opinion' - I wonder what the correct version of 'opinion' on UFOs actually is.



'British Activity in the Field of UFOs':






"In some RAF field, there was some sort of demonstration to which high officials of the RAF in London had been invited. During the show, a 'perfect flying saucer' was seen by these officials as well as RAF pilots. So many people saw it that many articles appeared in the public press. This is distressing to [Dr] Jones because he realises that the creation of the correction of public opinion is a part of his responsibilities."


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Cheers.



posted on Jul, 10 2012 @ 12:51 PM
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And furthermore, at the tail end of this two-page letter, found on pages 16 and 17 of the OP's first link:



...which explains the official procedure for filing reports of "unconventional aircraft" - defined as "any aircraft or airborne object, which by performance, aerodynamic characteristics or unusual features, does not conform to any presently known aircraft type", we find this closing:



Again, please try to keep any UFO reports that describe intelligently controlled objects out of public view. Thanks for your cooperation.




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