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Russian nuclear bombers test U.S. Air Defenses

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posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 07:35 AM
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Russian nuclear bombers test U.S. Air Defenses


freebeacon.com

Russian strategic nuclear bombers threatened U.S. airspace near Alaska earlier this month and F-15 jets responded by intercepting the aircraft taking part in large-scale arctic war games, according to defense officials.

The Russian war games began the same day President Obama and Russian President Vladimir Putin held a frosty summit meeting in Mexico June 18.

U.S. officials said the arctic exercises over the Russian Far East and Pacific appeared to be a further sign of Russia’s hardening posture toward the United States.
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posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 07:35 AM
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It seems the war "news" are intensifying on all sides by the day. China and Iran are sending parts of their fleet through the suez. The russians are testing US defences and NATO reaction in Syria.

This particular Russian flyby seems to have been the Tu-95MS Bear H and Tu-160 supersonic and extremely leathal ‘Blackjack’





The question remains, will we make it to next christmas or will we all be all blown to hell?





freebeacon.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
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posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 07:41 AM
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Its common here in the UK for them to test the response time of the RAF, they fly over international waters and dont actually enter soverign airspace but we send up a few fighters to watch them and they head back home



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 07:42 AM
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Fingers crossed we make it, quite looking forward to my Christmas roast to be honest. Pretty sure this type of thing happens a lot it's just not publicised unless there are tensions somewhere.

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Originally posted by Maxatoria
Its common here in the UK for them to test the response time of the RAF, they fly over international waters and don't actually enter sovereign airspace but we send up a few fighters to watch them and they head back home


and this, we get it alot. No harm in 'trying it on' at least we can show we have their number and are willing and able to respond

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posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 07:44 AM
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They've been doing that since the late 1950ies.

They just did a small break after the collapse of the soviet union in 89.

This is a daily occurance, ask the Finnish or British.

Putting the headline in all CAPS doesn't make it any more important or threatening.

And guess what .. the US does the same with the Russian air defence perimeter.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 07:45 AM
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Do you have any idea how many times this has happened through the years? There was even an informal treaty with regards to the interception of the aircraft. The most that usually happened was "communication". Sometimes the Russian pilots would show off their copies of Playboy, other times they'd flip each other the bird. Every time the F-15s, or whatever intercepted them would fly with them until they turned away and went home, and nothing happened. This happened so often they stopped reporting it because it was so common.

Russia has been in the process of modernizing their military over the last few years, so they have begun to fly long range missions again with their bombers. Unlike the USAF they don't have many non-bomber ELINT platforms to do the mission, so they put an ELINT package on the Bear, or Blackjack, and use them instead. It's good training for their pilots, because they have to practice inflight refueling, long range navigation, etc.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 07:47 AM
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IS THIS IN CAPITALS TO MAKE IT LOOK MORE EMPHATIC?

The reality is that nations do this to each other all the time. Do you honestly think the US never flies planes into Russian airspace?

Just standard practice. Would be newsworthy if the USA hadn't spotted them for a while, meaning they got a fair way into US territory before they were spotted......



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 07:50 AM
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I am going to have to rethink my Posting strategy , I was sure the all caps kept you all on the edge of your computers.




TextPutting the headline in all CAPS doesn't make it any more important or threatening.


reply to post by H1ght3chHippie
 



as opposed to LOL



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 07:54 AM
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Fair enough, to each their own.

Still doesn't make this news worthy though - as stated by many, this is routine.

However, if you didn't know this type of thing happens regularly then i can totally understand how someone would see it as news worthy. Point being, next time the OP notices a similar story, they will probably think "mm, see those Russians have been up to it again" rather than worrying about it.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 08:16 AM
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Russian Vice Premier Minister Rogozin said that there is no need for modernization of the bombers as they represent a very easy target for air defense, and therefore useless.
These flights are purely propaganda value



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 08:23 AM
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This stuff happens all the time.

But hey, any excuse to beat the PANIC PANIC WWIII IS HERE!!! drum.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 08:25 AM
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As of the beginning of this year, the plan was to modernize 30 of 141 Tu-22M3s to the M3M standard, and "over" 10 Tu-160s by 2020. At the same time, the Pak DA would be under development as a fifth generation bomber.


About 30 Tu-22M3 strategic bombers from Russia’s Long Range Aviation fleet will be modernized by 2020, Russian Air Force spokesman Col. Vladimir Drik said on Tuesday.

“We plan to upgrade about 30 strategic bombers to the M3M standard,” Drik said.

Tu-22M3 (NATO reporting name Backfire-C) is a supersonic, swing-wing, long-range strategic bomber that Russia uses mainly to patrol the skies over its southern borders, Central Asia and the Black Sea region.

www.defencetalk.com...


The Russian Air Force will receive more than 10 modernized Tu-160 Blackjack strategic bombers by 2020, the Defense Ministry said on Tuesday.

According to official data, Russia has at least 16 Tu-160 aircraft in service. There are plans to increase their number to 30.

“The Tu-160 in service with the Air Force are already undergoing modernization,” Air Force spokesman Col. Vladimir Drik said. “We are planning to receive more than 10 aircraft of this type.”

rianovosti.com...



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by johncarter
It seems the war "news" are intensifying on all sides by the day. China and Iran are sending parts of their fleet through the suez. The russians are testing US defences and NATO reaction in Syria.

This particular Russian flyby seems to have been the Tu-95MS Bear H and Tu-160 supersonic and extremely leathal ‘Blackjack’





The question remains, will we make it to next christmas or will we all be all blown to hell?





freebeacon.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
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If I saw that thing flying above me I would lose my #, that is the most hauntingly beautiful piece of war machine I have ever seen.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 09:00 AM
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Russia is also surveilling Canada's military and industrial targets this week too, seen it on Canadian news yesterday;




A Russian military plane will fly over Canada this week, taking photographs of cities, military bases and just about anything else that looks interesting.


news.sympatico.ca...

^^
This news seems more common though; Russia last flew over Canada for the same reason in 2004 and we (Canada) did it to them in September 2011. It's part of an Open Airspace treaty, Countries have the power to go over another Country's airspace to make sure there is nothing threatening to them as long as they give a heads up.
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posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 09:15 AM
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That is part of the Open Skies treaty that was signed with Russia many years ago. Member nations have the right to overfly military and other sites, using either their own aircraft, or an aircraft put aside by the country they're overflying for that purpose. The US used to have several OC-135Bs (tail numbers 12670, 12672, 12673, and 12674, 12671 was a C-135 VIP transport) that were painted white and grey, with "OPEN SKIES" across the tail stripe that normally shows the base name.

The actual treaty.
www.osce.org...

www.armscontrol.org...

www.state.gov...

OC-135B
www.seeandavoid.org...

upload.wikimedia.org...



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 09:24 AM
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Yup, I know. Thanks for giving the others more info!



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by johncarter
It seems the war "news" are intensifying on all sides by the day. China and Iran are sending parts of their fleet


You are referring to this large scale military exercise to be held off Syria. Have you not realised that it was just a bogus news story? Watch this space and wonder why you will not hear about all the Chinese and Iranian vessels coming through the Suez and exercising off Syria?

The strategic bomber flights are routine training. It has been going on for years and is a routine part of the Russian strategic forces training.

While all the scaremongering and claims of WW3 are going around the reality is that NATO and Russian training and cooperation is on-going.


The second, practical stage of the FRUKUS-2012 joint naval exercise starts on June 27. In Wednesday morning, participating ships – American guided missile cruiser USS Normandy, British destroyer HMS York, French frigate De Grasse, and Russian frigate Yaroslav Mudry – will take the sea and lay a course for Baltic Fleet (BF) test ranges....


rusnavy.com...

Read up on all the reports from the Russians on this so-called massive exercise off Syria.

rusnavy.com...

China Refuted Participation in Syrian Exercise

rusnavy.com...
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posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 09:32 AM
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The Tu-160 is a copy of our B-2.

Both are the loudest planes in the world I believe.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 09:41 AM
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reply to post by Cyprex
 


It's not a copy, but it looks similar to the B-1. There are only so many designs that you can come up with to do the same mission. It looks very similar to the B-1, but it's quite a bit larger. It's the largest swing wing design ever built. The two were essentially designed at the same time, with the Tu-160 NOT suffering the stop that the B-1 went through in 1977.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by leosnake
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Russian Vice Premier Minister Rogozin said that there is no need for modernization of the bombers as they represent a very easy target for air defense, and therefore useless.
These flights are purely propaganda value


this bombers will be used only for local wars
without nuclear weapons

During nuclear missile war RF is going to use mainly nuclear submarines
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and it's really terrible weapon against which there is no defense
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