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"The religious freedom of the parents and their right to educate their child would not be unacceptably compromised, if they were obliged to wait until the child could himself decide to be circumcised," the court added.
Text"The body of the child is irreparably and permanently changed by a circumcision," the court said. "This change contravenes the interests of the child to decide later on his religious beliefs."
"Unlike many politicians, the court has not allowed itself to be scared off by charges of anti-Semitism or religious intolerance," added Putzke.
Originally posted by MeesterB
I'm circumcised and every girl I've been with has loved it... sooo... nbd.
But yeah! Teach those religious types a lesson! Don't let them have anything! muhahahahahaha
Originally posted by dorkfish87
This is quite fitting. Germany hasn't exactly shown itself as a defender of religious rights that they disagree with.
I might agree with this if they outlawed dangerous practices in other faiths
Originally posted by dorkfish87
Well then what about the small percent of kids born with gills or tails. Taking them off would be cruel by your standard.
Exodus 4:24
And it came to pass by the way in the inn, that the Lord met him, and sought to kill him.
25 Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me.
26 So he let him go: then she said, A bloody husband thou art, because of the circumcision.
You're quite right. Those people do grow up to have voices and the ability to decide whether to do it. There doesn't seem to be any large Jewish outrage, so perhaps those who are circumcised come to see it's value as they don't try to stop it.
It has been forced upon the unsuspecting and those with no voice as a "religious" practice.
Well, of course, we only know it's general foundation, but does it matter? Who ever dreamed up eating raw oysters? It's disgusting to me, but certain people swear by it. Would circumcision be better in your mind if it had been dreamed up by somebody else? Say perhaps a pediatric physician decided it was, all in all, healthier. Would you accept it then?
I again ask, who in their right mind would ever have dreamed up such a thing?
Again, what if it was for some other reason than religion, OK then? Besides, you really can't have it both ways. You can't complain that it is done for religious reasons and also claim that it was done from sadism and cruelty. The parents don't believe it is sadistic and cruel. Why should the state tell them that this procedure is sadistic and cruel? Additionally, what is the effect on the baby at the time? Do we want to prevent pain to the baby? Does circumcision hurt the baby as much as an abortion?
Is it not sadistic and cruel to cut your genitals with a knife because "God told me so"?
Sorry, I don't see how this applies. Is a person with a tatoo a slave? Even if he got it as an adult?
We have outlawed slavery you know.
You're quite right. Those people do grow up to have voices and the ability to decide whether to do it. There doesn't seem to be any large Jewish outrage, so perhaps those who are circumcised come to see it's value as they don't try to stop it.
Well, of course, we only know it's general foundation, but does it matter? Who ever dreamed up eating raw oysters? It's disgusting to me, but certain people swear by it. Would circumcision be better in your mind if it had been dreamed up by somebody else? Say perhaps a pediatric physician decided it was, all in all, healthier. Would you accept it then?
Again, what if it was for some other reason than religion, OK then? Besides, you really can't have it both ways. You can't complain that it is done for religious reasons and also claim that it was done from sadism and cruelty. The parents don't believe it is sadistic and cruel. Why should the state tell them that this procedure is sadistic and cruel? Additionally, what is the effect on the baby at the time? Do we want to prevent pain to the baby? Does circumcision hurt the baby as much as an abortion?