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Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Calls for NWO

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posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 07:28 PM
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If the west is doomed, we are all doomed. You forget the west has more power that anybody. What is scary is though the west is so powerful, they are also the stupidest. I am very sad to be an american right now, but doomed? We are all doomed buddy, not just the west. If our stupid power people get scared, or doomed, they push the buttons for each city they don't like. I am quite sure that almost every city has an underground nuke just waiting for the signal. ICBMS no need. The nukes are already in place. I don't know this firsthand, but look at how stupid we are. It's probably true.




posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by Germanicus

Me too. I think a one world government is logical.


How would you express the differences (in your opinion) between a one world government, NWO and Type I,II,III,IV civilizations?



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 07:39 PM
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What is scary is though the west is so powerful, they are also the stupidest.


I agree. I also agree that we are all doomed. but doom for us is not doom for most of the world. Its because we have been ripping them off. Doom for us would be everyday life for the bulk of the world population.

I think now that China and India have all the manufacturing they will be able to maintain what they are doing well enough without western consumers. The BRICS can create their own consumers. The west is just left a husk. Sucked dry by the corpratist vampires. We have no manufacturing and will have no way of getting it back once we collapse. I think the next GFC will tip the scales and leave us doomed. You might be right, we might drag the East down with us, butthey seem to be better positioned to face the future than the west. The west is soft too.



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 08:09 PM
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Originally posted by LadySkadi

Originally posted by Germanicus

Me too. I think a one world government is logical.


How would you express the differences (in your opinion) between a one world government, NWO and Type I,II,III,IV civilizations?


I think that looking at societies as a 'type' or like how I was taught to think of them at school in geography (advanced,emerging,developing. It was un-PC to say 'third world' by that time) is wrong. It is propaganda. Upward Mobilty is how they fool us. The way they present the 'third world' is as helpless people that must follow the lead of the US to move forward.

The American Empire gives nations a class system. They are saying that the United States is superior and at the top of the food chain. The west are the upper class nations. America and certain European and UK nations are the highest class. Then there are the middle power nations like Australia. We are upper middle class. Then there are the emerging nations like India and China. They are middle class. Then you can go right to the bottom of the thrid world to nations in Africa that are third world like Ethiopia and they are the lower classes.

The world is saying that some people are better than others. School and society presents the third world in a way that makes them seem helpless and pathetic.

Our idea of what society is meant to be is not for sure correct. It also does not suit all people. I like the Amish for example. They rule. Many societies value culture over technology. It is wrong to say that we are 'advanced'. It is also capitalist to present the world with the race that is upward mobility.

Third world nations were not that way without first being exploited and westernized by the west. Many long standing societies and cultures have been destroyed by the west.

Im not sure about the differences between one world government and NWO. I just think that the western approach to things is flawed. I think that since the BRICS know what its like to not be an 'advanced' nation, they will be less out of touch with kind of international environment would be fair for all nations and fair for 'third world' countries.

The big thing we need to go toward is international law in relation to what international workers are paid. We also need to stop corporatists raping the resources of nations with poorly formed governments. The big oil corporations used to rip the wealthy gulf nations off in the beggining. They learned quickly that western corporations cannot be trusted and moved to nationalize.

Corporatism and expoitation is at the crux of most of the worlds problems. A one world governments main focus should be addressing exploitation.

Nations like North Korea and Iran are not even in the empire. Not even citizens. They do not follow the rules so they have been exiled just like Cuba. It is about their Central Banks. The corporatist empire seeks to control their economies, they do not care about the people. The dishonesty that exists in the world under the UN is a disgrace. The UN/Nato/IMF/World Bank are fronts for bankers nothing more. Any NWO designed by the west will be a front for bankers. A one world government needs to be the opposite of that.
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posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 12:18 AM
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Apples and oranges. You can have a type 0-5 civilization that is hell bent on power. You can have a technologically advanced people that want more. It really depends on the universal spread of peoples. If there are only 3 type civ races in the billion light year vacinity, the others may not care of your rising to the group. I would think that if there was a hell bent type two, destroying worlds for their gain, a higher type would come and wipe them out. If you can harness the power of the sun and other stars, why would you need to jump all over smaller peoples as you don't need to unless you are pure evil. The NWO is not trying to advance the people. They are hell bent on power and THEIR survival. There are forces that travel faster than light by far and we are seen by any that know how to look. The NWO and type 12345 are completely two differnt things. The NWO could be smart enough to break away and graduate to a type 1 so could their enemys. (Just posible, not likely) I consider us zeros is that right? Anyway, evil and good can go the distance. I would think that a type 5 could have a NWO mentality, but I don't understand the need to decimate others when there is all this room to move around. This tiny earth makes people very selfish. I would hope that the selfishness would disapear on a galactic playing field. If not, how scary is that?



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 12:44 AM
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Originally posted by Germanicus
America has no power now. It is pretty much a joke. A pretender.


Your Opinion.Biased.


Originally posted by Germanicus
Like I said, Third World countries hate America. I wonder why?


Have we not come to such an impasse in the modern world that we must love our enemies - or else? The chain reaction of evil - hate begetting hate, wars producing more wars - must be broken, or else we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation. ~ Martin Luther King, Jr.

Continue to Hate...................




Originally posted by Germanicus
Even though Pakistan gets millions in military aid from the scared US government, they clearly hate America, and for good reason.


Again,Biased Opinion.



Originally posted by Germanicus

This is just a sign of the world turning on the US openly. Things like this make it easier for other nations to jump ship and let the US sink alone.


Again,Biased Opinion.


Originally posted by Germanicus
Who can America count on?



Itself,as Always.



Originally posted by Germanicus

America is doomed.





posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 01:29 AM
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Originally posted by Germanicus
That is the culture of Persia.


Which is fine for Persians...


It is also the culture of the west. It is only very recent that western society has accepted homosexuals. Very recent.


Acceptance? Maybe but at least they were acknowledged to exist.


You can hardly blame Ahmadinejad.


Why?
Is he Homophobic?


Certain things about western culture seem insane to others


True but the West mostly consist of the Majority of Europe, North, Central and South America and your home Island [ I know that fact just kills you] and a few other locations as well. Meanwhile Persia is just Persia.


And there are differences within western society.


And there isnt differences within the Islamic world? I smell grey matter burning...


I find the fact that the US still executes criminals to be uncivilized for example.


Some here in the US would agree with you however we don't allow the stoning of Rape victims...

Bad Ju-Ju


Most western nations have moved on yet the US is still killing people and ignoring the metric system


Actually many here have been learning both systems for a while now. Some things take time when we have to replace one working system with another. Some say if aint broken why fix it? But, I do agree with that the metric system is more accurate but it didn't land man on the moon



We know you guys will catch up eventually.


Will this be before or after we collapse into the Abyss?


Ahmadinejad is a good guy. Obama is evil.


Well, you're half right.

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posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 01:42 AM
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Originally posted by Germanicus
And "the west' does not put people to death. I am from Australia. We got rid of capital punishment years ago. Everyone has. What is Americas problem? Backwards much?



Meanwhile your beloved China kills more people than the rest of the world combined

Last year the US executed 43 I believe. The UN simply states for China 1000s


China executes 1000s

China carries out far more executions than all of the rest of the world combined, and is notable as the only country in the world that regularly executes thousands of people every year.[94] On 25 February 2011 China's newly revised Criminal Law reduced the number of crimes punishable by death by 13,from 68 to 55.[95]

Among these are embezzlement; rape of children; fraud; bombing; people trafficking; piracy; rape; corruption; arson; murder; poaching; endangerment of national security; terrorism[

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posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 01:59 AM
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I have listened to quite a few speeches, and interviews done with Ahmadinejad I came away with the same conclusion. In one interview, he stated "more people were casualties of WW2, it was not only the Jews that died" it was spun that he denied the Holocaust, because he refused to acknowledge that only Jews died.
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This is one of the first speeches I listened to.

m.youtube.com...
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posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 02:11 AM
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Originally posted by Germanicus
Ahmadinijad is friends with Chavez and obviously Pakistan. Even though Pakistan gets millions in military aid from the scared US government, they clearly hate America, and for good reason.



AND

Pakistan is no friend of China's either.
US/China and Pakistan. No False Flag needed!



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 02:21 AM
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Originally posted by Germanicus

Originally posted by LadySkadi
How would you express the differences (in your opinion) between a one world government, NWO and Type I,II,III,IV civilizations?


I think that looking at societies as a 'type' or like how I was taught to think of them at school in geography (advanced,emerging,developing. It was un-PC to say 'third world' by that time) is wrong.



You have no clue what she's talking about with regards to type I, II, III etc civilizations do you?
Yet like usual you'll go charging in as if you've got a clue...

NWO or Type 1 Civilization?


A common speculation suggests that the transition from Type 0 to Type I might carry a strong risk of self-destruction since there would no longer be room for further expansion on the civilizations home planet


Many of you know me I can't keep my nose out of speculation....

I was digging around the web as usual and I came across this video. I did a search and came across a few old threads regarding it. However they were not slanted in the direction that it struck me. I've added some links to the Type 1 Civilization theory down below. I must apologize to those who cannot watch video. I'm a lousy typist and wont be able to provide a transcript.

I'll provide some links to a couple of my threads on the NWO. This thread will focus on the Type 1 theory.



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 02:24 AM
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You all talk as if you actually believe that he means an NWO that is different from the one we already know. They are the same NWO. And that is why his comment should concern you. There really is no opposition and the net is about to get a lot tighter.



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by jjf3rd77
Rio de Janeiro, June 22, IRNA – Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapaksa stressed the need for establishment of a new world order in their meeting here on Friday.

www.irna.ir...

Well if there was a single doubt in the minds of people who love freedom and individuality and free enterprise that Iran was one of the most current threat to our way of life. Here should be the last straw!!!!


Getting back on topic

Why would we want to attack a country that sees eye to eye with America? Or didn't you know George Bush sr also called for a NWO?




posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 07:01 AM
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Originally posted by Germanicus
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Third,you wouldnt have ANY problem with a "good guy",like him,running the world.


He does not want to run the world. This is all about putting pressure on the West.

In case you missed it, America has no power now. It is pretty much a joke. A pretender.

The BRICS have many friends. Ahmadinejad and Chavez are in with the BRICS. Chavez has ALBA. ALBA are an alliance of 8 socialist nations in South America that hate the US and are helping the BRICS destroy the USD and bring about a new Reserve Currency which will destroy the US economy. Like I said, Third World countries hate America. I wonder why? Guess all that bs corporatist aid that America likes to excuse itself with is the obvious bs that it looks.

Ahmadinijad is friends with Chavez and obviously Pakistan. Even though Pakistan gets millions in military aid from the scared US government, they clearly hate America, and for good reason.

This is just a sign of the world turning on the US openly. Things like this make it easier for other nations to jump ship and let the US sink alone.

There is a huge alliance of nations that are becoming more open about attacking Americas role as superpower and holder of the Reserve Status. Who can America count on? Isreal?
America is doomed. This is all part of the process.
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posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by yourmaker
is that the ultimate goal for these humans?
to establish the one world order under which they have supreme authority and command?

are there several different world orders all fighting for the one?


Else they just want us to think NWO is a bad idea, since they sprouted the idea... MINDBLOWING:!



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 08:31 AM
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I've been very happy to read your posts in this thread, Germanicus! I too, have been following Ahmadinejad's speeches at the U.N., and at the race conference in Geneva. When the western nations all get up and walk out it really shows how pathetic they are. I always look forward to the next appearance of Ahmadinejad at the U.N., the only president in the world who has the integrity to be honest about the crimes of Zionism, America, and who openly tells the world that the official version of 9/11 is a lie. Many stars for you, Germanicus!



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 09:02 AM
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I've been very happy to read your posts in this thread, Germanicus! I too, have been following Ahmadinejad's speeches at the U.N., and at the race conference in Geneva. When the western nations all get up and walk out it really shows how pathetic they are. I always look forward to the next appearance of Ahmadinejad at the U.N., the only president in the world who has the integrity to be honest about the crimes of Zionism, Americaand who openly tells the world that the official version of 9/11 is a lie. Many stars for you, Germanicus!


Hitler made a lot of good points too, but in the end he was worse than what he railed against.

They are all just pots calling each other black.



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 09:20 AM
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Uhhh...The NWO was established when Bush Sr. was in office, where the hell has Ahmjinedad been? That desert sun must have baked his brain. Or is he talking about One World Order? Now it wouldn't surprise me if that was what he was talking about, China has been carnival barking about it for over a year or more. Ofcourse his version of One World Order would be the one where everyone on the planet ends up going to prayer 5 times a day grinding their faces in the dirt.



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by Numbers33four

Originally posted by trysts
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I've been very happy to read your posts in this thread, Germanicus! I too, have been following Ahmadinejad's speeches at the U.N., and at the race conference in Geneva. When the western nations all get up and walk out it really shows how pathetic they are. I always look forward to the next appearance of Ahmadinejad at the U.N., the only president in the world who has the integrity to be honest about the crimes of Zionism, Americaand who openly tells the world that the official version of 9/11 is a lie. Many stars for you, Germanicus!


Hitler made a lot of good points too, but in the end he was worse than what he railed against.

They are all just pots calling each other black.



Ahmadinejad is not Hitler. Bad comparison.



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 09:34 AM
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I welcome the NWO that Ahmadinejad talks about. It is a multipolar world with the BRICS balancing the west, and ultimately developing a market that makes it impossible for the west to pressure the whole world economically. The only question is if the west and especially the US will accept that they are not the dictator of the world and they do not rule supreme over all others, or if they will use military power to try to hold on to their status like the image of a stereotypical dictator we have all been brainwashed with. So far the US has failed this test, and ever since the SU fell it has used military power to shape the world in its image. Let us hope others manage to balance the force before the Americans and their henchmen destroy us all.
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