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posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 10:34 AM
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You limit God to just being stuck in heaven, when he walked on earth through Jesus and moves everywhere through the holy spirit.


Father does not need the Holy Spirit to move. The Holy Spirit is here for man to speak directly to God and confirmation. Father does not need the Holy Spirit to function as Father.

If you were to go above, you will see that the seven spirits of Father sit separately from Father, as does Jesus. This account is given in Revelations by John.
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posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by windword
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Surely that isn't be accident.

As we go through our purification, some are able to identify with their spiritual body while others are too traumatized by the atrocities that they have committed or suffered, and are in need of "peace" in order to continue their journey.

Flashes of our inherent immortality shine through.


Yes, the spirit will keep all memories, even if the human side doesn't want or need to.



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 11:11 AM
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There are quite a few from above that have direct knowledge of all, here.


I want to expand on this as another thought. There are many here from above sent to do various tasks. Some examples that you know are: Enoch (he is an arc), Paul, John, Abraham, Sam Walton. By above standards they are not considered man, they took a human form, but the spirit is that of above, not of mans spirit, if that makes sense. But, they did not keep their memory. The only one who has kept his memory is Jesus, this was so that he would remain perfect.

They were brought above many times to "see" certain things and give their account into what you have written.
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posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 11:43 AM
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We must test all those who say they come in Gods name and I am no different, you first came off as limiting God to what he can't do and what he can. People with NDE are just being shown that the life they choose leads them to place where they can live forever or die in a lake of fire. Many civilizations have fallen pray to the deciever and has claimed many through out the earths history and this time will by far be the worst. God created heaven and hell and so it would seem that it would be of light regardless of how dark the void is. If God can't enter hell andl that is why Jesus is sent in to retreave them and always at the end they are shown there wrongs in life and are sent back. Have you gone up to heaven and did you die? The word of God doesn't change and if someone changes or takes from it is not of God.



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 11:50 AM
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People with NDE are just being shown that the life they choose leads them to place where they can live forever or die in a lake of fire.


Some of these are of Father. I am saying people don't actually go there, if Father does show them, it is a vision. Most of the NDE people claim to physically be taken there.



If God can't enter hell andl that is why Jesus is sent in to retreave them and always at the end they are shown there wrongs in life and are sent back.


This is of Jesus task, he is still saving after he left. They are sent back only if they choose to accept that they have done wrong.



Have you gone up to heaven and did you die?


Very much different.

We are on the same path in our speech, just the details differ for you and I. I give expanded information that is not written, and many discount it. Sure, I understand, this cycle is far more fearful than the previous ones. But, for good reason, because of the one in which we do not speak of.



The word of God doesn't change and if someone changes or takes from it is not of God.


This is true, but it must be Gods own words, not of mans version of God. If you read the bible, you can clearly see where it is of man speaking and of God speaking.



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 12:02 PM
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you first came off as limiting God to what he can't do and what he can.


He has restricted himself for a time on certain things. You have to understand, if he didn't, he would be taking a more active role in the tests he administers, if that makes sense.



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 07:39 PM
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Can you tell us more about the "Sitting Areas" and where souls go after they are done "sitting" in them?



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
Can you tell us more about the "Sitting Areas" and where souls go after they are done "sitting" in them?


The sitting area is where you go to sit until the appointed time. What happens when they are done sitting is a question for Jesus, as he is the one over judgement.

But, in the sitting area, there is no movement. You are to sit and not interact at all, more like a suspended state. You are given an account of all you did wrong. Arc Uriel is over this area, as well as debrief.



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 07:54 PM
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The sitting area is where you go to sit until the appointed time. What happens when they are done sitting is a question for Jesus, as he is the one over judgement.


I thought you might know what the different options of judgement might be since you happen to know that Hell was not reserved for man. If Hell was not reserved for man, what was? Do all go to Heaven? Are there different levels of Heaven? Is there another option than Heaven? Will some men's souls be destroyed altogether? Or do all souls live for eternity?



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 07:59 PM
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I thought you might know what the different options of judgement might be since you happen to know that Hell was not reserved for man. If Hell was not reserved for man, what was?


Eternal life was and is reserved for man. But, the actions of him will dictate where they go.



Do all go to Heaven?


No, not all. If they didn't make a choice, they sit until judgement. I cannot speak on how this is judged, that is of Jesus.



Are there different levels of Heaven?


There are ten levels to heaven.



Is there another option than Heaven?


Man will only go to heaven until the New Earth is brought into existence. Then he will inherit the Earth.



Will some men's souls be destroyed altogether?


This is the second death.



Or do all souls live for eternity?


Only those who are marked by above.


Rev 2:11 He that overcometh shall not be hurt by the Second Death.
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posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 08:03 PM
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So, what are the requirements in order to be "marked by above"?



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 08:05 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
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So, what are the requirements in order to be "marked by above"?


A true believer. One who believes that God will see them through, through all, without depending on self. This is what is wanted. But, to walk into the new Earth, accepting Jesus Christ as Lord.
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posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 08:11 PM
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So, what happens to those who are true believers in God, but don't necessarily believe that there's anything special about Jesus Christ?



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
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So, what happens to those who are true believers in God, but don't necessarily believe that there's anything special about Jesus Christ?


Depends on if there spirit accepts Jesus Christ. The human side can take a while to come to the understanding, but if the spirit confirms, then he accepts.
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posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 08:22 PM
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Do you have any idea what kind of information might be given out in the "Sitting Area" to familiarize people with the purpose or status of Jesus Christ?

Once the "New Jerusalem" is sent down to earth, do all levels of Heaven get cleared out and sent to the New Jerusalem or do some stay in one of the levels of Heaven?



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 08:26 PM
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Do you have any idea what kind of information might be given out in the "Sitting Area" to familiarize people with the purpose or status of Jesus Christ?


This is not done in the sitting area. Once you go there, you will have to wait until his return. If some people here have done many wrongs, they are not given a choice, they go straight there. But, if one did not make a choice, then they are given options. One cannot be easily faulted, because they had the wrong information, or couldn't get their questions answered during life.



Once the "New Jerusalem" is sent down to earth, do all levels of Heaven get cleared out and sent to the New Jerusalem or do some stay in one of the levels of Heaven?


Some are allowed to stay, these are called potentials. Father picks some out of man, who will come to live with him in heaven, instead of the new Earth. All angels will lose their status and become equal again, like it was in the beginning.



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 08:32 PM
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What do the "potentials" have the potential for?

Where do they go after they reach "potential"? What is their mission from God?



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
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What do the "potentials" have the potential for?

Where do they go after they reach "potential"? What is their mission from God?


Potentials meaning, they are marked for potentially living with Father. He will test them harder than he does the rest, to see if they can live up to the standards.

If they pass the tests, they come live with Father above, unlike man who will live with Jesus in the new Earth.



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 08:36 PM
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So, are those being tested for potential a combination of angels and man? Who exactly is being tested for their potential?



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
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So, are those being tested for potential a combination of angels and man? Who exactly is being tested for their potential?


Only man, then they are given wings. I do not know how they are tested or what made them even be a potential in the first place. I have asked Father on a few occasions.
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