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MSNBC Guest: Would A White President Get Heckled?

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posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 03:31 PM
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When did a US citizen toss a shoe at Bush? Which US representatives heckled him while he was speaking and when? I honestly believe you are just lying.


This coming from the smug poster who implied I had not read this thread. Boy oh boy, you're a real piece of work.

Read the thread and stop being so willfully ignorant. There are videos showing precisely what neo claimed in this very thread.




posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 03:37 PM
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No heckling eh?



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
reply to post by habitforming
 





When did a US citizen toss a shoe at Bush? Which US representatives heckled him while he was speaking and when? I honestly believe you are just lying.


This coming from the smug poster who implied I had not read this thread. Boy oh boy, you're a real piece of work.

Read the thread and stop being so willfully ignorant. There are videos showing precisely what neo claimed in this very thread.





There is not one video of the crap NEO claimed in this thread.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 05:20 PM
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Neither of those videos shows a US citizen throwing a shoe at Bush nor any US representatives heckling him while he is talking.

Can you read?



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by axslinger
I'm so sick of the race card. If we were such a racist nation he would have never been elected. The bottom line is, I believe, in the U.S., we respect talent, wisdom, skill and knowledge regardless of where it comes from. There will always be the idiot who is a flat-out bigot but that's the exception, not the rule.


Just look at the people the US holds on pedestals. Tom Cruise, Paris Hilton, Lyndsay Lohan, Donald Trump, etc. We have elected officials that do not know it takes a man to make a baby or that islands can sink if too much stuff is put on them. I want to live in the US you are talking about but I am not so sure it exists.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 05:29 PM
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Guess some people have to be spoon fed on here, and the fact remains which is the point of the topic.

All presidents have been and will continue to be heckled.

Apparently some can't read.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 05:31 PM
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There is not one video of the crap NEO claimed in this thread.


You can hide in a cave all day long, only to come out at night and point to the nighttime sky and declare: "I don't see any sun! Where is this sun you keep talking about?" You can play this silly game until the cows come home, few are impressed with it.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by neo96


Guess some people have to be spoon fed on here, and the fact remains which is the point of the topic.

All presidents have been and will continue to be heckled.

Apparently some can't read.


Are you going out of your way to look like you cannot read?
THERE IS NO AMERICAN CITIZEN THROWING SHOES AT BUSH.
So why would you post this video if you could read?



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux


You can hide in a cave all day long, only to come out at night and point to the nighttime sky and declare: "I don't see any sun! Where is this sun you keep talking about?" You can play this silly game until the cows come home, few are impressed with it.





Whatever you say. Neo cannot seem to find these videos you are talking about either. I already know you well enough to know I do not take your word for anything. I have watched every video in the thread.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by habitforming

Originally posted by neo96


Guess some people have to be spoon fed on here, and the fact remains which is the point of the topic.

All presidents have been and will continue to be heckled.

Apparently some can't read.


Are you going out of your way to look like you cannot read?
THERE IS NO AMERICAN CITIZEN THROWING SHOES AT BUSH.
So why would you post this video if you could read?


They only person who said that what who?

Go on quote where anyone said it was an American citizen.

Was an American citizen who gave Dana Perino a black eye just out of sheer hatred of Bush



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
They only person who said that what who?

Go on quote where anyone said it was an American citizen.

Was an American citizen who gave Dana Perino a black eye just out of sheer hatred of Bush





I said that.
Did you actually watch the MSNBC show in question? I watched all your videos. I asked a specific question. Then I question your reading. Now I realllllllllllllllllllly wonder if you can read. Here is where you first tried to reply to me.


Originally posted by habitforming
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Name the last white president to be heckled by his own congress for me.
Name the last white president that had a show thrown at him from a US citizen.

Pretty funny how far you gotta stretch to pretend to not understand this one. Then again, you can only manage to watch youtube clips instead of actual shows so why would I expect you to have any of the facts.


Ta da....
To which you replied. "George Bush 2000-2008."

Following this yet?



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 06:13 PM
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Bush has been heckled from the halls of congress and all points in between.

Someone is still not following that. for 12 years

Bush lied people died and all that stupidity.



What part of ALL Presidents get heckled are some people not comprehending?
edit on 17-6-2012 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 08:15 PM
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All posts on shoes up til the argument:


Neo69

Unprecidented?

President's have been mocked and heckled for decades especially Bush getting booed at the inauguration of Obama, and then we can go back even further.
[...]

Oh yeah Obama ever had a shoe thrown at him?

What bout Carney getting a black eye?

SO Yes a White president gets heckled just like anyone else, and always with the race card.
No "while in office." stated.post by sonnny1 the pic of bush ducking a shoe.

Not a heckle,but a damn funny picture !!!
wishywashy

In fact, I am even more shocked that NONE of the other panel members was able to challenge the assertion and bring up the fact that, as OP pointed out, it wasn't that long ago that President G.W. Bush had a shoe thrown at him.

I also recall G.W. Bush getting booed during his 2005 State Of The Union Address.

spinalremain



All politicians get heckled.

Hell, some even get glitter thrown on em.

Didn't some dude chuck a shoe at Dubya too?
CynicalDrivel

Of course it was disrespectful. What do you think the point of throwing shoes at people is for? NONE OF THIS is done with respect.


And FINALLY: First time ANYTHING is mentioned about shoes and American Citizens:
GogoVicMorrow

Reagan wasn't president there, and Bush didn't have a shoe thrown at him by an American citizen.

I am not saying that is is racism that motivates people to disrespect Obama (more likely it's him being a #ty president), but It had to be pointed out that you didn't really make a point with those two examples and I would like to see some better/real ones.


Intent to throw shoe at Obama:

post by timetothink

I am going to call...not heckling...


I think the problem is the frustration with this 'dictator" who spouts off his illegal actions and literally runs away....he ran away after he said he was bypassing congress and trashing the constitution....I think if I was there i would have threw a shoe at him.


ThirdEyeofHorus

Well, throwing a shoe is considered one of the worst insults in the Islamic world. But it is a funny pic.
muzzleflash

Throwing a shoe isn't heckling however.
It's assault.

jhn7537

I'll agree that being heckled sucks, but it is what it is and many other Presidents have been heckled... Bush was heckled by people all the time when he was in office, he even had a damn shoe thrown at him...
neo96

Originally posted by neo96Bush from 2000-2008 and to date.

Those are the facts, like Bush getting a shoe thrown at him and Dana Perino getting a black eye.During a state of the union in congress Bush was heckled and the person escorted out.


habitforming

Really?
I am going to have to call BS on that.
When did a US citizen toss a shoe at Bush?
Which US representatives heckled him while he was speaking and when?

I honestly believe you are just lying.

This is where you lost it. He stated: "Bush from 2000-2008 and to date." There was a few links in here that did give specifics. Neo, went generalisation. Then stated: " like Bush getting a shoe thrown at him" You heard "For example: Bush getting a shoe thrown at him." Neo96 more likely meant "Bush's 200-2008 presidency and to date has plenty of heckling, the likes of: Bush getting a shoe thrown at him."

Problem is that both Neo's likely intent (made obvious by his specific latter denials), and your interpretation of his using it as an example is what is meant by you seeing what you want to see out of this.


And everyone does it.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 09:24 PM
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All presidents are open to being heckled. They are voted in and can be voted out. Bush was heckled, Clinton was heckled, Bush Sr. was heckled, Carter was heckled, Reagan was heckled all of them were because it's politics. The opposing side is going to heckle.
Fox News heckles Obama all the time because they're extreme right winged. Rush Limbaugh heckles him all the time because he's extreme right winged and a racist. CNN doesn't do it as much with any president because they still have a little bit of integrity. Not a lot, but a little bit. Our news sources aren't what they were 20 years ago and it's a shame. They have no dignity anymore and Fox is like the National Enquirer of TV.
Most of the hecklers are on the other side politically but some are also just against him because they're racist, but not all of them.



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posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by CynicalDrivel
This is where you lost it. He stated: "Bush from 2000-2008 and to date."


Apparently you did not read anything you were linking. He said "Busgh from 2000 - 2008 in response to my ASKING HIM TO NAME A WHITE PRESIDENT THAT THESE THINGS HAPPENED TO.

He instead showed me videos of OTHER THINGS HAPPENING TO BUSH. So to answer my question with "Bush 2000-2008 was wrong.


There was a few links in here that did give specifics. Neo, went generalisation. Then stated: " like Bush getting a shoe thrown at him" You heard "For example: Bush getting a shoe thrown at him." Neo96 more likely meant "Bush's 200-2008 presidency and to date has plenty of heckling, the likes of: Bush getting a shoe thrown at him."


I did not hear anything. Read the question I asked and the answer I got.


Problem is that both Neo's likely intent (made obvious by his specific latter denials), and your interpretation of his using it as an example is what is meant by you seeing what you want to see out of this.


Dude, are you stupid? I asked him to name me one white president that had a shoe thrown at them by a US citizen. He answered "BUSH." That never happened to Bush. You left something out in your little attempt to post everything relevant. Neo answered Bush got a shoe thrown at him after I asked when this ever happened to a white president from a US citizen.




And everyone does it.




I do not do it.
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posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by habitforming
Apparently you did not read anything you were linking. He said "Busgh from 2000 - 2008 in response to my ASKING HIM TO NAME A WHITE PRESIDENT THAT THESE THINGS HAPPENED TO.
I pointed out that others did link some things in about Bush, before you asked that, so no I did read it, even glanced at their links, to boot.


He instead showed me videos of OTHER THINGS HAPPENING TO BUSH. So to answer my question with "Bush 2000-2008 was wrong.
Really didn't deal with the ensuing argument, just wanted to point out that the begining was doomed to failure and why, that's why I quit quoting things from that point. That is all.

But have fun with it.



posted on Jun, 18 2012 @ 05:03 AM
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Originally posted by CynicalDrivel
I pointed out that others did link some things in about Bush, before you asked that, so no I did read it, even glanced at their links, to boot.


I know. I never denied things happened to Bush so I am not sure what they prove or why you would point them out to me.


Really didn't deal with the ensuing argument, just wanted to point out that the begining was doomed to failure and why, that's why I quit quoting things from that point. That is all.

But have fun with it.


Well thanks but you are wrong. I am not sure what you think you did in that last post but you failed to show things in their proper context by only using posts that had the word "shoe" in them. You can point this out for me a third time if you like. It is not what I am looking for and it never was.



posted on Jun, 18 2012 @ 08:28 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Thanks to whoever posted a vid I was able to watch. Well the Prez got a bit rattled and indignant. He just knows it's the "right thing to do". Where is the humanist philosophy of whatever you want is what is the thing to do???? Oh wait, that is what the Prez wants so he's going to do it. But it really sounded like a lecture from the pulpit. Maybe he finally let Rev wright write his speech.
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Yes, Obama threw a hissy fit because a reporter from the Daily Caller - dared - to

interrupt his totalitarian lecture to the tiny people of America !





posted on Jun, 18 2012 @ 11:12 AM
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Has a white president ever...
Been heckled by congress?
Interrupted by a member of the press corp?
Called Un-American by sitting representatives?



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