I keep seeing people say that they don't think the U.S. could be invaded by a conventional military. I agree with that statement, but I wanted to hear what all of you thought. People always say "you cannot invade the mainland United States, there will be a rifle behind every blade of grass" which is often misattributed to Isoroku Yamamoto.

I think now days you would have a much better chance of a successful invasion because of a few things.

I think the biggest one is the pussification of America. What I mean by this is that kids have grown up playing videogames and on the computer more than playing outside. When I was a kid, I constantly was playing some sport outside. We used to settle things on the playground with scuffles instead of telling the teacher or parents.

Another big thing is lack of work ethic. I am a steel erection foreman, and I have a lot of kids straight out of high school working for me. I can't believe the lack of work ethic some of these kids have. I've seen a lot of kids quit after a 12 or 14 hour day. It seems to me that a lot of kids now days are protected so much and don't see the "real world" until they are in their mid 20s.

Another thing that would be a big determining factor is that today's youth lack general skills. A lot of people have never fired a gun, or even held one for that matter. Some people have never operated hand or power tools in their life.

Some things that would help us out if the U.S. were invaded

There are a lot of civillian owned weapons in the U.S., but it seems to me that it is getting to the point that they will soon just kind of dissapear and very few people will have the knowledge to use them. So yes there may be a rifle behind every blade of grass. It just worrys me that if it ever came down to it, a lot of people wouldn't have the guts or determination and skills to stop an attack.

The U.S. has arguably the best military in the world, and a lot of military vets, some battle hardened. The thing that worries me about this, is that our military is relying so much upon technology and if they ever lost it, it would make things much more difficult for them. I don't think an invasion force of a conventional military could ever get close enough to even attempt an invasion because of our military and tools they have at their disposal.

Will to live/ survive. Although many people haven't had their will to survive tested, it is a part of the human condition. People will fight for what is theirs tooth and nail, sometimes to the death if need be. The people of the U.S. have had it relatively easy compared to a lot of countries, but when push comes to shove I think all Americans would be willing to fight and die to try to preserve their way of life for them and their friends and family.

I have just been thinking about all this and thought I would share. I'm sure my opinions differ a lot from others here on ATS and I'm sure this will be a hate fest, but I wanted to hear your opinions.

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How would this invading army get through all of the missile defense systems, submarines and our air force? They would have to get through all of tbat before even getting 100 miles from the coast. Im sure that the army would have plenty of time to position infantry and artillery thanks to all of the satellite intelligence.

The invading army would be droned to death before even landing on the shores

The level of atrocities that would need to be committed in order to get a beach head would make the invaders the worst war criminal in history.

Hitler and his advisers thought it suicide in WW2.


It would take chemical and biological agents to subdue the armed civilians alone.


The biggest obstacle would be securing major hwys for troop movement, it works both ways, if you could surpise attack (emp, chemical, nuke, or some combinations)

The freeways would allow for rapid inland movement, but than you have one of the most harassed campaign in history as every movement of enemy troops is met with civilians taking pot shots at them.

i doubt that any country could invade america in a basic land/sea/air type invasion as the american military is so well established and who has the numbers to go one on one with a military that can sacrifice serious amounts of people

and we know that given the american population owns so many fecking guns its silly so theres no point really going in head first when the best bet of taking it over is a more political thing so that the natives don't get too restless

Considering the amount of military bases we have along our coasts, coupled with our drones, Air force, navy, armed civis, yeah you'd have to be desperate to come invade us.

Not to say it can't be done, anything can be done, it's merely a matter of probability.

US or any united front as such would only be invaded successfully from the inside. Seeing how direct on approach would be costly and slow going.

Thanks to the MIC, and our manned bases around the world, we have the ability to intercept any incoming invasion before it gets to our mainland. So, it would take one hell of a fleet to make it through our navy, missile system, air attack, etc., to make it our shores for a traditional invasion.

Not to stray off topic, but this is reason number 1 why Ron Paul's desires to shut down overseas bases would be a poor decision which would greatly weaken our defenses.

Any psychotic military leader could surely attempt an invasion, but very doubtful that they would have even a limited success at holding a position for any given amount of time. I know for a fact that I wouldn't want to be part of the invading force. The claim that there is no work ethic in the US and any other derogatory statement would be immediately thrown out the window. If foreign soldiers set foot on US soil with the intention to claim the US it would be one of the single most unifying events to ever occur next to a common threat from an other worldly force. People of all races, religions, cultural standings would immediately cast all differences aside to fight a common enemy.

You work kids in a steel erection company for 12-14 hours? What are you a friggin slave driver? How important is a structure to go into commission that you would subject a human body to something so ridiculous? Do you want them worked-through before they are 30?

My guess anyone who runs this sort of operation is without a doubt less human than the damn machines they run.

As for your invasion thoughts, how would we know if they are already here in plain clothes? I highly doubt an invading army would come waltzing through in uniform unless they carpet bombed the place first.

Originally posted by SpaDe_
If foreign soldiers set foot on US soil with the intention to claim the US it would be one of the single most unifying events to ever occur next to a common threat from an other worldly force. People of all races, religions, cultural standings would immediately cast all differences aside to fight a common enemy.

You would also see 1,000 new threads on ATS about the most recent false flag! I couldn't resist...

Yes.. Its the only way to fight against the US
without receiving nukes on their heads

In the strictest sense, yes would be the answer to your question.

However, I do not think it would last long enough to consider such an act to be in anyway successful.

If I were to plan such an attack, I would find and use secluded beaches under the cover of darkness. By landing only a few platoons at any one time and place until I had sufficient forces to begin a forceful assault.

Or, decide it was time to get them all killed.

Originally posted by benrl
The level of atrocities that would need to be committed in order to get a beach head would make the invaders the worst war criminal in history.

Hitler and his advisers thought it suicide in WW2.


It would take chemical and biological agents to subdue the armed civilians alone.


The biggest obstacle would be securing major hwys for troop movement, it works both ways, if you could surpise attack (emp, chemical, nuke, or some combinations)

The freeways would allow for rapid inland movement, but than you have one of the most harassed campaign in history as every movement of enemy troops is met with civilians taking pot shots at them.

edit on 15-6-2012 by benrl because: (no reason given)

Your last lines sound kind of familiar....

Oh yea, Iraq.

It's not possible.

There is zero chance of any assualt from the sea as we could sink anything with sufficent troops on it long before it got here. So any invasion would have to come from Canada or Mexico. If China where to make friends with Mexico or Canada and either of those contries allowed China to bring in troops and equipment then it would be possible for something like that to occur. I believe the US would stop China from doing so though long before a sizable invasion force could built to sufficent strength on our borders.

So an succesful invasion is highly unlikely.