# Do the Harbingers of Ancient Israel Mean the Destruction of America?

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posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 12:18 AM
By calling the nation Israel, they have also bound themselves by name to the blessed name of Jacob the father of the twelve tribes of Israel

El (deity)
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El (deity)
In the Canaanite religion, or Levantine religion as a whole, Ēl or Il was the supreme god, the father of humankind and all creatures and the husband of the goddess Asherah as recorded in the clay tablets of Ugarit (modern Rās Shamrā

In the Tanakh, ’elōhîm is the normal word for a god or the great god (or gods, given that the 'im' suffix makes a word plural in Hebrew). But the form ’ēl also appears, mostly in poetic passages and in the patriarchal narratives attributed to the P source. It occurs 217 times in the Masoretic text: 73 times in the Psalms and 55 times in the Book of Job, and otherwise mostly in poetic passages or passages written in elevated prose. It occasionally appears with the definite article as hā’Ēl 'the God'

This suggests the identity of Yahweh with either Ēl, in his aspect of Shaddāi, or with a god called Shaddāi. Also suggested is that the name Yahweh is a more recent revelation. Before El's revelation with the name of Yahweh, it is said in Genesis 14:18–20 that Abraham accepted the blessing of El, when Melchizedek, the king of Salem and high priest of its deity El Elyon .[19] One scholarly position is that the identification of Yahweh with Ēl is late, that Yahweh was earlier thought of as only one of many gods, and not normally identified with Ēl. In some places, especially in Psalm 29, Yahweh is clearly envisioned as a storm god, something not true of Ēl so far as we know (though true of his son, Ba'al/Hadad). (Noted Parallel: El is derived from Sumerian Enlil, God of Wind.[20]) It is Yahweh who fights Leviathan in Isaiah 27:1; Psalm 74:14; Job 3:8 & Job 40:25–41:1, a deed attributed both to Ba’al/Hadad and ‘Anat in the Ugaritic texts, but not to Ēl.

According to The Oxford Companion to World Mythology’’,
It seems almost certain that the God of the Jews evolved gradually from the Canaanite El, who was in all likelihood the 'God of Abraham'... If El was the high god of Abraham - Elohim, the prototype of Yahveh - Asherah was his wife, and there are archeological indications that she was perceived as such before she was in effect 'divorced' in the context of emerging Judaism of the seventh century B.C.E. (See 2 Kings 23:15)"

The apparent plural form ’Ēlîm or ’Ēlim 'gods' occurs only four times in the Tanakh. Psalm 29, understood as an enthronement psalm, begins:
A Psalm of David.
Ascribe to Yahweh, sons of gods (bênê ’Ēlîm),
Ascribe to Yahweh, glory and strength
Psalm 89:6 (verse 7 in Hebrew) has:
For who in the skies compares to Yahweh,
who can be likened to Yahweh among the sons of gods (bênê ’Ēlîm).

By taking the name Israel they also signify their nation belongs to El (God) as it carries his name.

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All of God’s archangel also carry the name of El because they belong to him
Michael, Gabriel , Raphael , Uriel, Sealtiel, Jegudiel, Barachiel, Jerahmeel,

This is a video by “Christian Prince” he debates Bible and Quaran over the internet
He explains the use of EL

posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 01:02 AM
In the United States, we have a separation of church and state. However, in the Declaration of Independence, the United States enters into the New Covenant of Christianity. By the use of the word “GOD”, we entered into a covenant with the one true God of Abraham. That is to say, both nations United States and Israel have entered into a covenant with the same God, EL.

"I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,' because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest," declares the Lord. "For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more." (Jeremiah 31:31-34) ”
This prophet's word refers to the birth of Jesus Christ and his atonement on the cross (Matthew 26:28), as well as the expounding of proper interpretation of the law, based on principle rather than rule (Matthew 21-48).
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The Declaration of Independence

The Declaration of Independence of the United States of America acknowledges faith towards a supreme God who created mankind. The Declaration also acknowledges by all who signed it, the laws of God, the providence of God, and the judgment of God.

The Declaration also appeals to God as the Supreme Judge of the world for their intentions. Furthermore, for the support of this Declaration, the signers relied firmly on the protection of Divine Providence

When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station
to which the laws of nature
and of nature's God
entitles them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident,
that all men are created equal,

that they are endowed by their Creator
with certain unalienable rights,
that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness

That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed
That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the United States of America, in general Congress assembled,
appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the name and by the authority of the good people of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States; that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as free and independent States, they have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliance, establish commerce, and do all other acts and things which independent States may of right do.

And for the support of this Declaration,
with a firm reliance
on the protection of Divine Providence,
we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.

When those Signers of the Declaration wrote the words ...firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence,...a school child can see, if the teacher shows him, how close this is saying they put their trust in God to help them accomplish what they believed to be the will of God....!

America's Great Religious Document
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posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 01:07 AM

small correction:

That is to say, both nations United States and Israel have entered into a new and everlasting,,covenant with the same God, EL.

posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 12:26 AM

These days God looks at us as nations instead of tribes.
As a nation, I can see more reference for us in the bible now
I am happy with El, I don’t need to shop for other Gods
Thanks to, not so stupid girl

posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 05:11 PM
reply to post by stupid girl

Well here's something interesting you need to watch. It's not long, but you do need to watch what Pastor Carl Gallups has to say about this matter.

Apparentlly whoever read this speech about the bricks being thrown down and replaced with hewn stone and the cedars being cut down and replaced by the sycamores, obviously didn't know he was fulfilling prophecy, particularly prophecy of judgement.

Pay attention to 4:10 where the prophecy comes into play and gets fulfilled.
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posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 05:19 PM

El is just a title, not his real name. This title was used by both canaanites and ugarites. Ofcourse we all came from the same stock at one time and came from the same family, it should be no big surprise we would have some connection. Where the Mystery Babylon came into play was the worship of the Fallen Ones who arrived on Mt. Hermon in the first wave, and then the worship of them in the second wave.

posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 01:32 AM

is this some kind of christislam mix because it is total BS. The two don't mix and what does light have to do with darkness -false teachings your right that's not new.

posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 01:41 AM
why is it america, or should i say, ALWAYS america? all these other countries on the planet that have been around so much longer and have done so much more evil that the u.s., but they ALWAYS get a pass. Why can't it be france for a change, or britian, or itlay, or greece or without a doubt, CHINA. Nope. in prophecy, it's always the u.s. why does spain always get a pass? they're responsible for buthcering most of south america.

posted on Jan, 19 2014 @ 11:02 PM

Why America? Not to bring back an old thread but there is an answer to the question. Look at the prophesies of Genesis 48 and 49. In those prophesies what was predicted that the tribes of Israel would eventually become nations. But Joseph got a double portion. And if you look at that prophesy what you are told is that the 2 tribes would stick together for a while before separating. And that one tribe would become a multitude of nations. While the other would be a single powerful nation. By the end times.

So if you look at today's world with the thought that the end times are near then ask this question. What country in today's world most closely fits the description of Manasseh?

The United States.

posted on Jan, 19 2014 @ 11:54 PM

Danbones
if god is ok with all the dead indians and broken treaties that resulted in America and Canada then
IMHO ANY nation he supports deserves to lay forever in the dustbin of history

Since god and the bankers have been on both side of every war since when ever and no matter what country wins the peeps all lose...while the kissing cousin royalty and the priests and preachers and the bankers laugh all the way to the bank....

The problem with the premise in the OP is the dancing Israelis
and the millions of dead Muslims and their stolen properties justified by murder, and the bearing of false witness as justification....

America's and Israel's claims to any moral high ground are simply spurious and worse

Well really, its not like the tribes didn't kill each, take slaves, fight and kill over territory and the like. Folks talk like there were a bunch of peace loving hippy nuns living over here before Europeans came along.

posted on Jan, 20 2014 @ 12:00 PM
Will Comet 209P/LINEAR Generate the Next Meteor Storm?
Quanzhi Ye, Paul A. Wiegert
(Submitted on 1 Nov 2013)

Previous studies have suggested that Comet 209P/LINEAR may produce strong me- teor activity on Earth on 2014 May 24; however, exact timing and activity level is difficult to estimate due to the limited physical observations of the comet. Here we reanalyze the optical observations of 209P/LINEAR obtained during its 2009 appari- tion. We find that the comet is relatively depleted in dust production, with Af {\rho} at 1 cm level within eight months around its perihelion. This feature suggested that this comet may be currently transitioning from typical comet to a dormant comet. Syn- dyne simulation shows that the optical cometary tail is dominated by larger particles with {\beta} ~ 0.003. Numerical simulations of the cometary dust trails confirm the arrival of particles on 2014 May 24 from some of the 1798-1979 trails. The nominal radiant is at RA 122 +/- 1 deg, Dec 79 +/- 1 deg (J2000) in the constellation of Camelopardalis. Given that the comet is found to be depleted in dust production, we concluded that a meteor storm (ZHR>=1000) may be unlikely. However, our simulation also shows that the size distribution of the arrived particles is skewed strongly to larger particles. Coupling with the result of syndyne simulation, we think that the event, if detectable, may be dominated by bright meteors. We encourage observers to monitor the expected meteor event as it will provide us with rare direct information on the dynamical history of 209P/LINEAR which is otherwise irretrievably lost.

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2:24Image
Sahih International
But if you do not - and you will never be able to - then fear the Fire, whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers.

Comet 209P/LINEAR may produce strong me- teor activity on Earth on 2014 May 24

24 may 2014 = 24 rajab 1435 arabic calendar now

24 may 2014 = 24 /2/1433 calendar of Prophet muhammad & qurani
Surat Al-Baqarah 2 [verse 24]
disbelievers = word 1435 th quran!
stones=word 1433 th quran!

star Betelgeuse is to go supernova and create a second sun for awhile

Centurie2 Q 41
The great star will burn for seven day

The cloud will cause two suns to appear:
The big mastiff will howl all night
When the great pontiff will change country.

A huge fire from the East for 3 or 7 nights, darkness will be seen in the sky, and there will be a redness in the sky spread across the horizon, unlike the pink in the horizon with which we are familiar. (Muhammad Al-Barzanji's book Isha'ah li Ashrat Al-Sa'a)

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عن علي بن عبد الله بن عباس قال لا يخرج المهدي حتى تطلع الشمس آية(
Ali bin Abdullah bin Abbas said: "The Mahdi will not emerge until the Sun rises as a sign (or unless a sign emerges from the Sun)." (Al-Baihaqi, Al-Haakim, Al-Harbi, AsSuyuti, Nuaim bin Hammad's Kitab Al-Fitan, Ibn Hajar al-Haithami's book Al-Qawl al-Mukhtasar fi Alamat al-Mahdi al-Muntazar, p. 47, Al-Muttaqi al-Hindi's book Al-Burhan fi Alamat al-Mahdi Akhir al-Zaman, p. 33 ) Another variation says a sign appears with the sun.

قال الوليد

والحمرة والنجوم التي رأيناها ليست بالآيات إنما نجم الآيات نجم ينقلب في الآفاق في صفر أو في ربيعين أو في رجب وعند ذلك يسير خاقان بالأتراك تتبعه روم الظواهر بالرايات والصلب
Betelgeuse
Al-Walid said: "The redness and stars we have seen are not the Ayat (signs). The star of the Ayat (signs) is a star that flips (or turns) in the horizons in (the month of ) Safar or in (the 2 months of) Rabi (the first and second Rabi), or in (the month of) Rajab. Once this happens, Khankan marshes the Turks (Russians); the Romans (Europeans) of Zawahir will follow with the banners (battalions) and Crosses." (Nuaim bin Hammad's book Kitab Al-Fitan)

209P/LINEAR

Ka'b said: “ 'A star will rise from the East before the appearance of the *Mahdi and it has a tail.' *And Sharik said:' Before the appearance of the Mahdi, the sun will have an eclipse in the month of Ramadan twice.' ” (Nuaim bin Hammad's book Kitab Al-Fitan)
supernova Betelgeuse
Khaded Bin Madan said: " If you see a column of fire from the East, in the month of Ramadan( rajab = may 2014?), in the sky, get food as much as you can, for it is (going to be) a year of starvation (famine)." (Tabarani, *Nuaim bin Hammad's Kitab Al-Fitan )

A sign before the return of the Mahdi: “a star will appear in the East giving out as much light as the moon.”

Ka'b said: "It is a star that rises from the East and illuminates for the people of the Earth like the illumination of a moon in a full-moon night." (Nuaim bin Hammad's book Kitab

Al-Fitan

comae ison = comet satanic mayan calendar and dats satanic (11/11/2013: comet ison in orbit venus / 17/12/2013 comet ison in orbit venus again) ... transit of venus :6/6/2012 dead sharon =these events before the antichrist Israeli

So the January 11th-17th, 2014 period we have:

1) Earth, Venus, Sun alignment
2) Earth enters into Comet ISON debris path
3) Venus becomes the morning star on January 17th/18th
Quetzalcoatl, the cosmic serpent or dragon associated with flood!

Isaiah 14:12-17
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the Most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
17 that made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

Revelation 12:7-16
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven,
Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16 And the earth helped the woman; and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

prophecy islamic:Comet 209P/LINEAR & explosion betelgeuse maybe may 2014 ?

Ka'b said: "The perishing (end) of Bani Al-Abbas (the progeny of Al-Abbas) will be once a

star appears in Jawf (region), and a Hadda (powerful, hammering sound) and Wahiya

(catastrophe). All of this in the month of Ramadan. The redness will be between the 5th and 20th of Ramadan. The Hadda (powerful, hammering sound) is between the

middle and the 20th (of Ramadan). The Wahiya (catastrophe) is between the 20th and

24th (of Ramadan). A star thrown (by Allah from Heaven) illuminates like a moon and

then turns like a snake until its ends meet. Two tremors will be in the night of Fis'hain.

The star thrown (by Allah from Heaven) is a Shahab (asteroid) that rushes from the sky

with a powerful sound when it drops in the East and because of it, people will

experience magnificent disasters." (Nuaim bin Hammad's Kitab Al-Fitan )

en.wikipedia....Hebrew..._calendar

www.3daysofdarkness.com...

Asteroid 2003 QQ47's Potential Earth Impact in 21 march 2014 Ruled Out
Paul W. Chodas and Steven R. Chesley
NASA's Near Earth Object Program Office
September 3, 2003
neo.jpl.nasa.gov...

Newly discovered asteroid 2003 QQ47 has received considerable media attention over the last few days because it had a small chance of colliding with the Earth in the year 2014 and was rated a "1" on the Torino Impact Hazard Scale, which goes from 0 to 10. The odds of collision in 2014, as estimated by JPL's Sentry impact monitoring system, peaked at 1 chance in 250,000, a result which was posted on our Impact Risk Page on Saturday, August 30, 2003. Impact events at the Torino Scale 1 level certainly merit careful monitoring by astronomers, but these events do not warrant public concern. In fact, each year several newly discovered asteroids reach Torino Scale 1 for a brief period after discovery; 2003 QQ47 is the fourth such case this year.

On September 2, 2003, new measurements of 2003 QQ47's position allowed us to narrow our prediction of its path in 2014, and thus we could rule out any Earth impact possibilities for 2014."[1]

(143649) 2003 QQ47 has a diameter of approximately 1.24 km, and a mass of approximately 2.0×1012 kg. If it were to hit the Earth, it would be a major event, with an energy of approximately 350,000 megatons of TNT (1.5 ZJ), enough to cause global damage.

Dr. Sara Russell, a meteorite researcher at London's Natural History Museum, told the BBC that she was not worried that (143649) 2003 QQ47 would be a danger.
yellowstone supervolcano will erup after the ipmact 2003 QQ47
in march or april 2014
The Final Signs of Qiyaamah - doom (Islam

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1-The ground will cave in: one in the east, one in the west, and one in Hejaz, Saudi Arabia.

2-A night three nights long -will follow the fog(Fog cause comet dust ison)

3-After the night of three nights, the following morning the sun will rise in the west.(reverse rotation the earth)

4-One day later, the Beast from the earth will miraculously emerge from Mount Safaa in Makkah, causing a split in the ground.

5-The beast will be able to talk to people and mark the faces of people, making the believers' faces glitter, and the nonbelievers' faces darkened.

6-A breeze from the south causes sores in the armpits of Muslims, which they will die of as a result.

7-The fire will follow people to Syria, after which it will stop.

Some years after the fire,

Slightly exaggerated:

Ibn al Hashimi cites Sunnipath.com:

Ibn Kathir said in al-Bidaya wal-Nihaya (8:201-202):

Al-Tabarani mentioned in this chapter very strange reports indeed and the Shia went overboard concerning the day of Ashura, forging many hadiths that are gross lies

such as the sun being eclipsed on that day until the stars appeared, no stone was lifted

except blood was seen under it, the celestial region became red, the sun and its rays

seemed like blood, the sky seemed like a blood clot, the stars were hurling against one

another, the sky rained red blood, there was never redness in the sky before that day,

and the like… among other lies and forgeries of which not one report is sound

zanbaq1.livejournal.com...

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