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edit on 9-6-2012 by thesearchfortruth because: eta
Although the sighting was not highly dramatic in comparison to many UFO reports, what makes it particularly unusual - and scientifically useful - is that it was a long-duration daylight sighting of an object seen by two independent groups of observers. Moreover, these groups - one stationary and one moving - were separated by very long baselines in both horizontal and vertical planes, facilitating triangulation of the object's position. One group even had the advantage of using optical instruments to view the UFO. Unlike many sensationalized UFO events, these observations were recorded in a calm, professional manner by the witnesses themselves while the details were still fresh in their minds. No media attention was sought or desired. And most importantly, the integrity and competence of this particular group of observers is almost unquestionable. A more qualified set of eyewitnesses would be hard to imagine.
Because of their precise observations and careful documentation of the incident, a great deal of information can be extracted from the account. Available weather data makes it clear that Blue Book's rubber-stamp identification of the object as a lenticular cloud is untenable...and therefore the object's identity is still a mystery.
There was no question in about this in Kelly Johnson’s view. He was absolutely certain that it was no cloud, aircraft or other mundane object.
The Lockheed UFO Case
At approximately Five pm Johnson was looking through a window at the remarkable sunset when he recognized a darkish elliptical form in the sky in direction of Pt. Mugu cape. At first he assumed the object might have been a lenticular cloud, or maybe a smoke trail from a plane, however it stayed fixed on the sky unaffected for several minutes. He called for his wife to bring him his 8-power binoculars and ran outdoors. When he got outside the object began to move, speeding up in the direction faraway from him in a superficial ascend in a contrary path in regard to the movement of other clouds on the horizon. The object appeared to be substantial in size (about 200 foot long), distant and shifting. Unfortunately, he had no true technique of comprehending its precise dimensions, distance or velocity.
Simultaneously, a Lockhead WV2 aircraft was being flown by one of Johnson’s test crews over Long Beach California. The WV2 was a massive four-engine transport plane loaded with huge blisters housing radar antennas constructed to fly very long standing patrols far off the coasts of North America to deliver long-range recognition of incoming Soviet bombers. The crew spotted the object at about the same time as Johnson did at about 15,000 feet altitude and when they chose to get a closer look, and proceeded toward the object the UFO took off at a great speed.
Soon after Johnson stated in his official report: “I am now more convinced than ever, that such devices exist, and I have some highly technical converts in this belief.”When US Air Force took a look into the case they concluded that Johnson, his wife, and also the airplane team saw a lenticular cloud..
Originally posted by thesearchfortruth
I remember this case from a while ago. I don't exactly buy the lenticular cloud theory though. How would that explain the high-speed take-off?
Originally posted by Zcustosmorum
One of the best cases in proving that these craft were not U.S. military, so that leaves rockets, which they were not, where your belief goes after that is up to you
And ofc, it's already proven that the military does reverse tech, the B-2 doesn't resemble anything else I've seen.edit on 9-6-2012 by Zcustosmorum because: (no reason given)
And ofc, it's already proven that the military does reverse tech, the B-2 doesn't resemble anything else I've seen.
I should also state that about two years ago Mrs. Johnson and I saw an object which I believed at the time, and still do, to be a saucer, flying west of Brents Junction, California, on a very dark night. I did not see the object itself but saw a clearly defined flame or emanation, as shown on the attached sketch.
it wouldn't... unless all observers were looking at it from the same direction, and it's pretty clear they were not. (A stationary dissipating cloud will always appear to be receding directly away from the observer.) So lenticular cloud is a tough fit for this sighting, overall.
But you would seriously think an aeronautical engineer would know the different between a cloud and a solid flying craft.
I should state that for at least five years I have definitely believed in the possibility that flying saucers exist - this in spite of a good deal of kidding from my technical associates.
He didn't mistake a cloud for a triangle shaped UFO, no way.