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In the name of religion , homosexuality in Tel aviv

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posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 07:26 AM
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People wake up.

Is this the order prophets told you about ?

Haven't you read about tribe of Lut ?

They were homosexuals and they were hated in all books.

Now , in the name of religion , Zionists are funding homosexual groups.

IMO , they are the same homo people who used to go to bohemian groove.

Now, they have their own land and there is no Alex Jones to disturb them.

Go Israel , you are getting near the end.

Go go.
You are playing the band yourself.

But it is a shame on humanity to do wrong things that people used to do thousands of years ago.




posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 07:40 AM
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Would you prefer them to do what iran does about hompsexuals?

The bible doesnt even mention homosexuals. Ok, ive never read the talmud, but i know the torah doesnt.

What about all the contradictions in the bible?

Why is it ok to cheat and steal but not be gay?



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 07:42 AM
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Killing women and children - not that bad..
Destroying local communities, and oppressing the native Palestiniann population - meh.
Homosexuality - Now we gotta problem!

Really? What a small percentage of the population decides to do in the privacy of their own homes is worse, then say, bulldozing someone's home and placing them in an internment camp? I don't know what it is with the western world... Violence is fine and peachy, but ANYTHING sexual is horrible - You need to worry about the people who want to oppress populations, the people who'd put a bullet in your head if you don't agree with their ideology -but no, you gotta worry about the effeminate bartender in a gay bar in Miami who's goals are having fun, being stylish, and meeting other dudes like him.. yeah.. he's the threat.

The love between two people isn't going to bring about the end of the world; it will be HATE between people that ushers in the end.
edit on 9-6-2012 by Syyth007 because: Format



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 07:47 AM
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So just to be clear - you're antisemitic AND homophobic.

Nice. You must be a barrel of laughs IRL.



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 08:00 AM
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Don't get mad at me.

There are many people here who think Israelis are doing what God wanted to happen.

But Ats is a place that people choose to talk by proofs.

+ the issue that they are oppressing native people of Palestine is one issue

and now they are bending the truth in their own way is another issue. This is how they have made their laws for their civilization.

This thread is about their civilization and their issue.

Those people told every one "Jerusalem is our land and god granted us the property"

Abut I say " suppose that Jerusalem is their land , but look people , they don't do what god told them to do . They are just corrupting the earth "

And this is one little part of their corruption.



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 08:07 AM
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WORLD WHITE SLAVE TRADE CENTERED IN ISRAEL: Modern Day Slavers – “Their God Granted Right?!”

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so, to be anti child sex slavery is to be anti semitic?

WOW, thats a tough choice

no wonder all those politicians religious leaders and police chiefs love to go on those junkets to Israel all the time

edit on 9-6-2012 by Danbones because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by mideast
Abut I say " suppose that Jerusalem is their land , but look people , they don't do what god told them to do . They are just corrupting the earth "


That's an interesting point. You can't claim to be "God's chosen people" and not follow His ways I guess.

I'm by no means an expert on Judaism, but I did find this on Wiki:


The traditional viewpoint is that the Torah mentions homosexuality twice in the book of Leviticus (JPS):

Lev.18,22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind; it is abomination.

Lev.20,13 And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.


But I also found a "legal technicality" on the same page:


Vayiqra (Leviticus) forbids sexual intercourse between males, classifying it as a to'eivah (something abhorred or detested) that can be subject to capital punishment under Jewish law, although Halakhic courts are not authorized to administer capital punishment in the absence of a Temple in Jerusalem and the entire judicial system as mandated by Jewish Law.


Judaism and sexual orientation

Personally, I don't think God created homosexuals so the rest of us have something to hate.



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 08:17 AM
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Originally posted by phroziac
Would you prefer them to do what iran does about hompsexuals?

The bible doesnt even mention homosexuals. Ok, ive never read the talmud, but i know the torah doesnt.

What about all the contradictions in the bible?

Why is it ok to cheat and steal but not be gay?



The bible does mention homosexuality and calls it an abomination , but it also says we are not to judge and that Jesus used an Hebraism in regards to forgiveness. Jesus said we are to forgive 70 times 7 if need be , this means as many times as it takes to come to repentance.

Judgement is coming upon the world as it began in 2011 , if one wants to continue to live in the flesh after carnal lists then they bring judgement upon themselves . God himself is going to destroy Jerusalem for her sins against God , anyone that studies the bible knows this.



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 08:18 AM
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How did the OP even end up on that website if he hates gays so much?
I don't hate gays and I still don't find websites like that nor will I click on one and read the details because I am just not interested.
Maybe we have another closet gay and he was so annoyed with himself, he had to post his rubbish to make him feel better. Seriously.



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 08:25 AM
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It's 2012! It's cool to be gay dude. Relax and enjoy your life and let people be what they want to be, the only person spreading hate is you! let them live!



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 08:28 AM
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I'm not mad, friend, just a bit frustrated when people focus on non-issues, when there are plenty of relevant issues at hand. I rarely agree with the actions of the Israeli government, and completely agree with you on it's corrupting influence in the area, but I also disagree with many actions taken by those who claim to support the Palestinian movement, as well.

It's the old divide and conquer, get people to fight among themselves over perceived divides in society, while the real "bad guys" do what they want, unseen. Minority groups are ALWAYS targets of these divide and conquer techniques. They're easily reachable by most of the population, so the "bad guys" get people to take out their frustrations on these scapegoats, while the real enemies go by unmolested.

People today are angry, frustrated, they feel oppressed; but rather then going after the ones who put us all in this situation, they go after caricatures drawn up by the same people fracking up the world. You see it everyday on these boards: People blaming immigrants, ethnic, religious minorities, people with alternative lifestyles/beliefs, left/right, liberal/conservative, etc etc etc ad nauseam.

(in my opinion) We are all one - and those who would separate us, and set us upon each other are the ones we should be fighting. Maybe, someday, people will wake up to the idea that you do not need a fat rich bureaucrat sitting in an office somewhere to tell you not to murder your neighbor. They have effectively made everyone afraid of each other - you can see it out in public everyday of the week - and we have convinced ourselves we need these bloated bureaucrat institutions in order to protect ourselves from each other.



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 08:31 AM
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Your attitude is an affront to humanity. Grow up, follower of grown-ass-men-in-robes.

Follow your religious leaders and claim to be against homosexuality.

Where do you think your admiration for those men comes from? Why do you think your priests seclude themselves in a world only allowed for men? Your own tongue is your judge, now get lost.



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 08:31 AM
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The old testament talks about homosexuality more specifically. The new testament doesn't mention it. Jesus also said by simply believing in him your sins are forgiven. So as Christians lets get away from bashing gays as sinners and rather, teach them about the love of Jesus... Gays go to heaven, along side everybody else by just believing.

Also judgement started in 2011!? That's news to me, heck that would be news to Jesus even. As the bible says nobody knows, not even the lamb, when the day of judgment is.... So are you God or have a hotline you could share?



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 09:22 AM
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There are some people with some disorder in their sexual hormone. But they are not even scientifically hundreds in a thousand.

+ some people are just after their own unnatural experience.

While they claim to be religious it will bot be accepted.

That is my point.



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 09:38 AM
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This reply is to those who defended homosexuality.

There is a simple question :

If you are not homosexual , then why do you defend it ?

If there are one in thousands who feel that way , why do you defend it ?

And if there are people who are heart-sick and want to experience everything dangerous , why do you defend it ?

What we see in international community is not a result of natural disorder , but it is what a bunch of corrupted people want you to expect.

Anything they miss to do through the sex and porno industry is going to be done by homosexuality advertising.

Now , is one of the most corrupted times we live in.

Wolves kill people in millions and pigs just want to live dirtier than they live.

And if any of you want to support wolves or pigs , it is your choice.



posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 02:09 AM
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If you are not homosexual , then why do you defend it ?


Because I will defend freedom. What has the little girl or boy done wrong if the choose their own sexual preference? I'm not insane and controlling that I'd want to control others sexual orientation, that's retarded. You are however.

But defending the weaker has never been a big thing in Islam huh? Attack the weakest one is more like it.


If there are one in thousands who feel that way , why do you defend it ?


HAH, one in thousands? Let me guess, a big bearded man in the sky told you that?



And if there are people who are heart-sick and want to experience everything dangerous , why do you defend it ?


See, people who have no disorders of the mind do not claim they are God. However, you are obviously brainwashed into believing you know what God thinks. It's easy to see in your typing, believe it or not.


What we see in international community is not a result of natural disorder , but it is what a bunch of corrupted people want you to expect.


"Natural disorder".

I'm confident that God is the ultimate creator of us all, so there must be something wrong with you, a disorder, if you see something wrong with what is created - that is not waging war.


Anything they miss to do through the sex and porno industry is going to be done by homosexuality advertising.


Right, because homosexuality is a new thing caused by the porno industry. Where do you nut jobs come from?



Now , is one of the most corrupted times we live in.


I agree. Islam is mandatory in a number of countries. So disgusting I want to puke.


Wolves kill people in millions and pigs just want to live dirtier than they live.


And other people have God delusions and judge millions yet wish not to be judged. But rest assured you hate-spreader, your children will be the judge of you ( if you get any in the 1st place ).


And if any of you want to support wolves or pigs , it is your choice.


I wonder what you would do if any of your children turn out to have a different sexual orientation than usual...fire and brimstone like the God you are delusional enough to think you represent?


Answer this one:

Why would anyone listen to your backward story?



posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 02:13 AM
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praise God,,
u are correct,,
but remember
let God
deal with his children
,,as only
God
will.
For God of the Living and the Dead. shall Judge.



posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 11:29 AM
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Hate the sin not the sinner bro. It's ok to not want to condone what they do but you can't get involved it's their choice. Let them do what they will, let YHWH do the judging. It's going to be worse on Capernaum than it was on Sodom. Don't go to Capernaum.



posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 11:37 AM
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Jesus also said by simply believing in him your sins are forgiven.


No he didn't. He said you have to keep his commandments, believing is the first step. What you advocate is what the Nicolaitans teach that Jesus hates, that you have an unlimited license to wickedness and licentiousness and he expressly forbade lawlessness.



posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 02:45 PM
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The idea that the word "Homosexual" or "Gay" is even used in the Bible is completely false; there are a few "versions" of the Bible that include those words; however, they are not the "true" Word as evidence of the Word itself, that no man should dare change or alter the Living Word, or else!

Interestingly, the very first person to receive the "Holy Spirit" after the Resurrection was a Gay man!

Acts 8:27 The Ethiopian Eunuch The Ethiopian is described as a eunuch and a treasury official at the court of Queen Candace. This was not a slave, this was a free man, but yet he was a eunuch none-the-less.

We know this because at the time (the time of our Lord) all of Jerusalem was under Roman Law, and the definition of what a eunuch was is clearly defined for us in written Roman Law, written by Ulpain . In those days there were three distinct groups of eunuchs, those adult men who choose the pious life and got themselves castrated (third class eunuch) who cannot consumate within marraige by choice, those young pubescent males who are chosen and then castrated (second class eunuch) who cannot consumate within marriage (most typically slaves for life), and finally those eunuchs who are born as eunuchs, who can consumate in marriage and have children because they are "intact".

It is all written out for us under Roman Law, written by Ulpain
Bust of Ulpian, AD 172-233




“The name of eunuch is a general one; under it come [1] those who are eunuchs by nature [born eunuchs], [2] those who are made eunuchs [by castration or crushing], and [3] any other kind of eunuchs [those who voluntarily abstain from marriage].”


First Class Eunuchs were born that way! They were intact as any male would be and could bear children; doing so was a choice, and what made these eunuchs natural was the "natural" disposition to turn away from the opposite sex. They simply were not "wired" to have such an attraction naturally. Most were not slaves and most were put into service of high esteem and responsibility. The Ethiopian Eunuch was a "First Class" Eunuch and was born that way and was the first to accept Christ through the Holy Spirit by way of Baptism.

He was Gay! Now why on earth would GOD do that? Wake up folks, could it be the Devil has someone believing that there is an abomination to GOD? Of course! Hook, line, and Sinker! "Gotcha" is likely his catch phrase as a result, especially those who dare "re=word" the Living Word, the Holy Bible itself.

Beware if you dare, send us a postcard from Hell!






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