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Originally posted by 911files
Originally posted by Bilk22
Who is "we"? Quite odd that you come to a web site that is dedicated to exploring unexplained phenomena and you spend your time solely on 911, using all effort in attempting to debunk alternate theories and attacking people in the process. This comes off as your personal crusade. But I guess if that's what you get paid for while sitting in your parent's basement ...........
Maybe he is simply living up to the website's motto ... deny ignorance?
Originally posted by Bilk22
Have any other examples of commercial crashes with no large hull or wing parts laying around? I'd be interested in seeing them.
Originally posted by 911files
Originally posted by Bilk22
Who is "we"? Quite odd that you come to a web site that is dedicated to exploring unexplained phenomena and you spend your time solely on 911, using all effort in attempting to debunk alternate theories and attacking people in the process. This comes off as your personal crusade. But I guess if that's what you get paid for while sitting in your parent's basement ...........
Maybe he is simply living up to the website's motto ... deny ignorance?
Originally posted by 911files
Originally posted by Bilk22
Have any other examples of commercial crashes with no large hull or wing parts laying around? I'd be interested in seeing them.
Originally posted by 911files
Originally posted by Bilk22
Who is "we"? Quite odd that you come to a web site that is dedicated to exploring unexplained phenomena and you spend your time solely on 911, using all effort in attempting to debunk alternate theories and attacking people in the process. This comes off as your personal crusade. But I guess if that's what you get paid for while sitting in your parent's basement ...........
Maybe he is simply living up to the website's motto ... deny ignorance?
Okay, I give. What does your reply have to do with my comment? But yes, there have been. I recall one when I lived in Florida that was very similar to the UAL93 crash. Do I keep a list of names, dates and such of such events? No. Why? Because it should be obvious to anyone that flying a plane at 500+ into a solid structure just ain't gonna leave much plane.
Originally posted by Bilk22
Who is "we"? Quite odd that you come to a web site that is dedicated to exploring unexplained phenomena and you spend your time solely on 911, using all effort in attempting to debunk alternate theories and attacking people in the process. This comes off as your personal crusade. But I guess if that's what you get paid for while sitting in your parent's basement ...........
Originally posted by Six Sigma
reply to post by Bilk22
Bilk22 - research the crash of flight 1771. That will answer your question.
Originally posted by waypastvne
Originally posted by Bilk22
Who is "we"? Quite odd that you come to a web site that is dedicated to exploring unexplained phenomena and you spend your time solely on 911, using all effort in attempting to debunk alternate theories and attacking people in the process. This comes off as your personal crusade. But I guess if that's what you get paid for while sitting in your parent's basement ...........
You seem to think the 911 conspiracy section of ATS is a battle between good and evil. It's not. It is a stupidity contest. We are the judges and you're a contestant. Truthers come in here and say "I'm stupid and I can prove it" and we say "OK Kid show us what you got" It's very entertaining.
Originally posted by Bilk22
Isn't it time for you to grow up and interact like an adult?
Originally posted by Bilk22
Have any other examples of commercial crashes with no large hull or wing parts laying around? I'd be interested in seeing them.
Detective Bill Wammock is the first to arrive on the scene. He recalls “nothing that resembled an airliner... we went on for hours, before we heard the news reports of a missing airliner, believing that we were dealing with a small airplane full of newspapers that had crashed. We saw no pieces of the aircraft that were larger than, maybe, a human hand. It did not look like a passenger aircraft.”
Originally posted by Bilk22
Come on you can do better than that. Physics man. It's called physics, not hyperbole.
That does not mean any of them were lying. Just means different people perceive and recall the same event differently. The details they miss, their brain fills in with details familiar to it so that it can make sense of what happened. However, it is a statistical "fact" that if you limit your witness set to one side of an events location (north side of the flight path for example), the described path will shift in that same direction. If you excluded the NoC eyewitnesses and only included the people on the other side of I-395, we would be arguing No395 or So395.
So there is nothing to "believe" or "disbelieve" about the NoC eyewitnesses. They recall what they saw in a very fragmented way, and what they saw is what their brains perceived that they saw, not what actually happened.
Originally posted by LaBTop
But you all also don't want to touch this issue. It will instantly shatter all your years of online involvement.
I will be very glad when one of you can prove me wrong. REALLY !
Originally posted by 911files
Originally posted by LaBTop
But you all also don't want to touch this issue. It will instantly shatter all your years of online involvement.
I will be very glad when one of you can prove me wrong. REALLY !
You really have lost touch with reality here. What any of those eyewitness says has absolutely NOTHING to do with what happened. There is nothing to prove "wrong". That is the part you don't get. If you wish to believe in fantasy, suit yourself. It is your life. NoC is a moot argument for internet trolls. No evidence, just distorted eyewitness accounts taken out of context.
Originally posted by 911files
Originally posted by Bilk22
Come on you can do better than that. Physics man. It's called physics, not hyperbole.
In other words you are just trolling. I see.
Originally posted by Six Sigma
Originally posted by Bilk22
Have any other examples of commercial crashes with no large hull or wing parts laying around? I'd be interested in seeing them.
Flight 1771:
Detective Bill Wammock is the first to arrive on the scene. He recalls “nothing that resembled an airliner... we went on for hours, before we heard the news reports of a missing airliner, believing that we were dealing with a small airplane full of newspapers that had crashed. We saw no pieces of the aircraft that were larger than, maybe, a human hand. It did not look like a passenger aircraft.”
www.airdisaster.com...
I know how much you truthers love YouTube videos:
Originally posted by Bilk22
Second, this crash has nothing in common with the 911 crashes. This plane was reported to have fallen from 30,000ft and impacted solid earth. The 911 planes flew into structures which are thin skins with volumes of vacant space behind them. Isn't that an OS claim as to why the planes penetrated into the structures so readily? Why the "disappeared" as if there were no structure there at all? Now we're told to believe something very different than that.
Have any other examples of commercial crashes with no large hull or wing parts laying around? I'd be interested in seeing them.
Originally posted by Bilk22
I have no idea who you are or what your motivation is regarding the events of that day in September of 2001, but I can tell you this, people, real people with human spirit, can see the truth from the lies and deceit and one day those lies will be exposed by the truth. You can call me what you will. You can try to diminish my intellect and my professional life's experiences, but you cannot diminish my righteousness or that of other good people. So continue posting your lies and fabrications. One day you or someone you love be on the other end of those same lies and deceit and you'll understand what you are doing is wrong. Then it will be too late for you as well.
Originally posted by Bilk22
I don't know much about that crash, but there are two things to consider here. First, regarding the 1771 crash, does it make sense that a guy would write a suicide note fully knowing that the craft is going to probably burn during the crash? Wouldn't he expect the note to burn too?
Second, this crash has nothing in common with the 911 crashes. This plane was reported to have fallen from 30,000ft and impacted solid earth. The 911 planes flew into structures which are thin skins with volumes of vacant space behind them. Isn't that an OS claim as to why the planes penetrated into the structures so readily? Why the "disappeared" as if there were no structure there at all? Now we're told to believe something very different than that.
Have any other examples of commercial crashes with no large hull or wing parts laying around? I'd be interested in seeing them.