reply to post by 911files
That does not mean any of them were lying. Just means different people perceive and recall the same event differently. The details they miss,
their brain fills in with details familiar to it so that it can make sense of what happened. However, it is a statistical "fact" that if you limit
your witness set to one side of an events location (north side of the flight path for example), the described path will shift in that same direction.
If you excluded the NoC eyewitnesses and only included the people on the other side of I-395, we would be arguing No395 or So395.
So there is nothing to "believe" or "disbelieve" about the NoC eyewitnesses. They recall what they saw in a very fragmented way, and what they saw
is what their brains perceived that they saw, not what actually happened.
I am very aware of that, I know it from a life long experience with people telling stories that did not catch-up with later shown photo's or videos
That is why you will have noticed a trend in my NoC witness candidates.
I came up with new ones that expressed in their registered words, WHERE they stood on 9/11. Be it in print, audio or video. I am not so interested in
what they saw, my first goal with all these accounts is, to find clues where exactly they stood on 9/11 on Route 27, or anywhere else.
That's why it is a bit strange that none of you does contact Vin Narayanan, while I gave three means to do that.
Are you afraid to find out, that Vin is present in one of the Steve Riskus pictures in a totally different spot than you expect him to have been?
If you hear in what type of car he drove that day, just as you can ask Christine Peterson and Penny Elgas the same thing, then you can easily solve
the whole NoC issue.
You must know it, you're a bright guy, so why do you dodge this one in a lifetime chance to stop all the Pentagon issues bickering on myriads of 9/11
based web sites, blogs and in books.
We have the words of Christine : " I stood in FRONT of the Heli Pad when the plane came straight over my head".
Penny : "I stood a few cars away from where the plane crossed (Washington Boulevard / Route 27)" and then a very detailed account of what she saw
when the plane impacted the west wall. It proves that she must have stood very near to the impact position, which is i.m.h.op., near the Heli Pad, a
few cars behind Christine.
Under a NoC flight path.
If you can show Christine her car, and herself, in that Steve Riskus photo I posted, you directly know that the OS is a farce.
If you however can prove to us with hard evidence that both ladies stood near the huge traffic sign board in the OS, I can go lay my tired body to
rest. In that case they stood under a SoC flight path.
Be my victor, I really hope you can, but since the words of both ladies in several interviews predict to you a different outcome than what you hope
for, I give you a small chance.
There seems to be a concerted effort by OS followers, to avoid the position issue in all telephone interviews, while every investigator knows that is
the iron rule. First ask the witness where exactly he/she stood compared to the investigated event.
Listen to the phone interview of Jeff Hill with Penny Elgas, it's up at his site, PumpItOut.
I never heard a clearer case, from both sides by the way, of both participants avoiding the position issue as the Plague. It's glaringly obvious that
both did NOT want to touch that question.
The bias of Jeff sips through in the whole interview. He wants to hear from her, only what he wants to get.
And that is really a shame, he could have ended the whole damn NoC issue right there.
pumpitout.com Forum→9/11 Research→The Pentagon→Conversations with Pentagon witnesses
Penny Elgas :
If Penny stood near or even under the traffic board SoC, how could she have seen the plane fly over Columbia Pike right at her? In that case, she
would have still stood a few cars behind Christine, who in the SoC case would have stood right under its flight path crossing Route 27 about 50 meters
past the huge traffic signs board.
Simpler said, the plane would have come flying perpendicular to her position on Route 27, just behind that huge board. But she stood not there, but
near the Heli Pad.
And I think you all know it intuitively, if Christine and Penny stood near the Heli Pad, and are to be seen in that Steve Riskus photo I already
posted pages ago, the OS is BS.
But you all also don't want to touch this issue. It will instantly shatter all your years of online involvement.
I will be very glad when one of you can prove me wrong. REALLY !
Vin Narayanan :
Albert Hemphill :
And 19 more phone-interviewed people there.