WAR: Iraqi War a Disaster - WSJ Reporter, page 1
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Topic started on 3-10-2004 @ 04:07 PM by Gools
Yet another story about someone from the front lines expressing a very different view of the Iraqi war than that of the current administration. This time it is a Wall Street Journal reporter backed up by her editor (Reported by the New York Post).




www.nypost.com
Despite President Bush's rosy assessments, Iraq remains a disaster," Wall Street Journal reporter Farnaz Fassihi wrote in a group e-mail to friends that inadvertently became widely posted on the Web. ...

"Iraqi government doesn't control most Iraqi cities." She said there are car bombs, assassinations, kidnappings and beheadings. "The situation, basically, means a raging barbaric guerilla war."


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


Information Clearing House has the full text of the mass e-mail the reporter sent to friends (text).

This follows the story of the Army Reservist who also published a first hand account of why the United States CANNOT win this war (text). This text was widely circulated and the reservist now faces possible disciplinary action for disloyalty and insubordination. If charges are bought and he is found guilty, he could face 20 years in prison. It would be the first such disloyalty prosecution since the Vietnam War.

There have been several threads on ATS lately (see below) outlining the bad news that seems to be actively repressed in the mainstream media.

This is in addition to Naomi Klein's story which appeared in Harper's Magazine recently. Harper's, in an unprecedented move made the article freely available to the public (see below). The article give a first hand accounting of what is happening on the ground in comparison to the rethoric comming from the White House.

The guerrilla war in Iraq is spreading like wildfire and intensifying, yet this administration refuses to face reality and the mainstream media refuse to "go after" the story.

Honestly, I don't think this can be kept off the front pages much longer but they will try at least until the election is over.

Related News Links:
www.harpers.org
Operation American Repression?

Related AboveTopSecret.com Discussion Threads:
OP/ED: Is News On Iraq Being Manipulated?
Iraq rebels atttack 2,300 times in a month
Iraq, 2,368 attacks in 30 days.

[edit on 3-10-2004 by Banshee]


reply posted on 4-10-2004 @ 10:26 PM by zcheng
What are the real figures,probably we will never know.But one thing is for sure the official ones given are false.

Does anyone truly believe that from the initial point of invasion driving and fighting 450 miles to Baghdad that only 65 soldiers were killed ? thats what Centocom reported,The U.S invaded a whole country fighting and at the end 65 soldiers killed,Really ?

Other sources have said that the figure was around 2500-3000 dead in the invasion part of operations,this seems more reasonable.There was a massive battle at Baghdad airport in which hundreds of soldiers were killed but was never reported by your friendly Fox media,Just as AlJazeera was about to go on air and broadcast this battle something strange happened,Al Jazeeras offices were Bombed in error by B52 bombers.Pity.Al reference to the airport battle has vanished.Click on the link and read about it from a U.S cavalry Captain.So it did happen.
www.geocities.com...

So the lies started in not reporting true casualties,Reason is, not politically correct to show the American public 3000 dead marines in 3 weeks,especially if you are looking to invade Syria,Iran,Korea.Public might get scared off.So then we have all those flag waving Iraqis,Street parties and hugging U.S soldiers,bit like the liberation of France during WW2.The Iraqis are happy to see us "So why are they shooting at us on a daily basis"exactly so it is best not that we report the dead during initial phase of occupation,because people ask questions,We will underreport and in time the insurgency will stop and everything will be ok.

So 8 months go by 2003 is over and still there are daily attacks and all those dead we have not reported.The lies are getting bigger and bigger and the old saying goes once you start liening you have to create more lies to cover up the initial ones.

So New year goes on attacks still happening,soldiers still dieing on aa daily basis,but in 4 months we have the Iraqi goverment taking over in June,so we cant report the higher deaths on a daily basis,because that gives the wrong message to everyone.Then Fallujah occurs major battles errupt all over iraq some 100 attacks every day on soldiers,the end of the month they report 130 killed for the whole month,give me a break,3000 attacks on soldiers in a month,including,gunfire,IEDs,Mortar,RPGs,snipers etc and only 135 killed.

Well it is not in the interest of Pinochio and his friends to give the truth.June 28th only 2 months away,things will get better.Keep reporting the lies on casualties,dont worry everything will work out after june 28th.

June 28th comes and goes,and guess what,everything gets worse,much worse,Well we cant report the truth on casualties because there is an election in the U.S and that can cause a biased view.So we will continue reporting this way.Then Najaf occurs battles everywhere 100 attacks a day length and breadth of iraq 3000 attacks in the month and gues what at the end of the month 54 soldiers are killed out of a total of 3000 attacks.Give me a break.In the meantime pentagon says have on lost 1000 dead and 7000 wounded so not to bad,whilst they are issuing those ok figures behind the scenes they are preparing a back door draft,offering girls boob jobs if they join the army and calling up all the ex vietnam vets some who are in their 60s and any retired personel,the reason is because the army is overstretched and there are no national guards people left in America.What does this say.?

September comes and goes,IEDs going off all over the place,landmines blowing up under vehicles,suicide nutters ramming convoys,Rpgs flying everywhere et etc.90 attacks a day on soldiers length and breadth of Iraq.and gues what 81 soldiers die out of 2700 attacks in the month.These Iraqis need some glasses,either bifocal or magnification.

So that is where we are today.All the Bull#ters are bull#ting each other and thats what happens whe you allow your country to become corrupt of which America is.The true situation is that the U.S has lost around 7000 dead soldiers and 36,000 seriously wounded needing disability pensions from the VA.That figure does not include green card warriors or mercenaries or intelligence officers.Those figure are home grown American boys and girls.7000 dead and 36000 seriously wounded.That figure is growing all the time we are at a rate now of a 100 dead or wounded solders nearly every day around 2500 a month.

Now you see why pinochio Rumsfield and Mickey mouse Cheney have been so quiet the last 6 months. Pinochio Rumsfield still is living in a surreal fantasy land.

This came out of his office 2 days ago."Samara 1 dead soldier 4 slightly wounded". Give me a break 3000 soldiers go storming into a small city called Samara where there are at least 1000 insurgents all dug in and ready and willing to fight.Major battles ensue,bullets and RPgs flying everywhere Battle goes on day and night for 3 days and guess what yes you have guessed it pinochios office officialy states 1 dead soldier 4 Slightly Wounded.


reply posted on 4-10-2004 @ 10:28 PM by Muaddib
Originally posted by Weller

The only fools in this campaign were the Neo-Cons that convinced Bush (Cheney chief among them) that victory and stabilization would be relatively quick.


And Bush never said this was going to be a long struggle? He said that it was going to be a walk in the park right? he painted everything was goingt o be rosy...

Let's see what president Bush has said in the past about Iraq and the war on terror.
"Our war on terror begins with al-Qaida, but it does not end there. It will not end until every terrorist group of global reach has been found, stopped, and defeated."


"Our war on terror is well begun, but it is only begun. This campaign may not be finished on our watch -- yet it must be and it will be waged on our watch."


"We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbour them."


Now the following is a favorite for liberals/democrats that has been misquoted time and time again.

"Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime."


And the part I put in bold is what democrats/liberals continue to leave out...

"The progress we and our friends and allies seek in the broader Middle East will not come easily, or all at once. Yet Americans, of all people, should never be surprised by the power of liberty to transform lives and nations. That power brought settlers on perilous journeys, inspired colonies to rebellion, ended the sin of slavery, and set our Nation against the tyrannies of the 20th century."


All of the above are excerpted from.
boycottliberalism.com...


reply posted on 4-10-2004 @ 10:53 PM by Muaddib
Originally posted by zcheng

Why do not you check out following link from a US captain?

www.geocities.com...

and see what you will have to say.


Yeah, why didn't you check out what it said on the bottom of the web site?

Website woven by El Loco
De Waco Texas America


What corroboration is there of this? it all sounds like a prank...by El Loco.... "the Crazy man"

How many people in here actually believed that Aussie Bloke was telling the truth and how much information did he post in several sites? at the end it was all a prank...

[edit on 4-10-2004 by Muaddib]
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